The Church does teach everything +Paul taught, except with a different interpretation than the +Paul taught by the Protestants.
Herein lies the rub, FK. Everyone who calls on Christ's name claims to teach the 'right' faith. God is a riddle we cannot solve, but if God revealed Himself to men we presume that He did so that men would 'know' Him and would know what God expects from us.
That is not the case. Many if not all those who teach anything the Bible says claim to have the Holy Spirit as a Guide. That's not possible, because the teachings differ so much they are unrecognizable in some cases.
What could be the cause of that discord? The Holy Spirit teaches everyone something else or men fail to understand the essence of faith? I would say the latter.
Just because the same-minded people or even individual readers agree with themselves doesn't mean they are right! The Old World Order was based on the geocentric theory (earth at the center, everything revolves around us) based on the Bible (man is God's central creation), philosophy (Aristotle) and science (Ptolemy).
They all came, independently, to the same concordant conclusion: earth is at the center of all creation and everytyhing revolves around us. The knowledge couldn't be more solid than the concordance of three powerful fields of man's knowledge coming to the same conclusion independent of each other! Yet, they were wrong.
Western Christian 'confidence' is an expression of this rationalistic dogmatic mindset that believes man can solve every enigma and explain everything through reason. That might be true if man (a) had all the information necessary and (b) the capacity to process it. We don't. So, no matter what we do, we can only 'hope' in God's mercy because we can never be sure that we really 'know' anything for certain.
Through interpretation, the Bible can be seen to mean anything. I had the impression that you were saying that the Reformed interpretation of Paul was closer to the actual words of Paul, and that was different from what Christ taught.
Herein lies the rub, FK. Everyone who calls on Christ's name claims to teach the 'right' faith.
I suppose that's true, and the ones who have the strongest scriptural support will be closest to the truth. It's the interpretation that causes the problems, not the reliance on scripture.
God is a riddle we cannot solve, but if God revealed Himself to men we presume that He did so that men would 'know' Him and would know what God expects from us. That is not the case. Many if not all those who teach anything the Bible says claim to have the Holy Spirit as a Guide. That's not possible, because the teachings differ so much they are unrecognizable in some cases.
That is exactly the case. :) God reveals Himself to the extent of His will. The scriptures are clear as to what God expects from us. Again the problem is interpretation. When two people stand next to each other preaching different things, and both claim to be led by the Spirit, all we need to do is what the Bereans did, check it against scripture. Different interpretations by different men will lead to different answers. That's unavoidable. I know you believe that a certain group of men always interpret correctly. We disagree because we don't see how those interpretations can reasonably square with the actual words of scripture.
What could be the cause of that discord? The Holy Spirit teaches everyone something else or men fail to understand the essence of faith? I would say the latter.
The Spirit won't lead anyone down a wrong path, but it does appear that He leads according to His own schedule with different people. I wouldn't take it to the level of essence of faith, but it does appear that not all apprehend the truth of the Spirit's leading exactly the same way.
Just because the same-minded people or even individual readers agree with themselves doesn't mean they are right!
Absolutely right. Numbers do not equate with truth.
Western Christian 'confidence' is an expression of this rationalistic dogmatic mindset that believes man can solve every enigma and explain everything through reason. That might be true if man (a) had all the information necessary and (b) the capacity to process it. We don't. So, no matter what we do, we can only 'hope' in God's mercy because we can never be sure that we really 'know' anything for certain.
Even the most learned Reformers would not claim to have everything figured out. There are mysteries. Some just believe there are more than others. :) We do not think the basics of salvation are, or were meant by God to be, mysteries. So, I do think that a) and b), above, do apply to the basics of the faith, but not to everything under the Son. Yes, we have hope in God's mercy, but we can be sure of this hope.
Heb 11:1 : Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.