Australian/U.S. creationism schism at Answers in Genesis

http://lippard.blogspot.com/2006/11/more-from-behind-scenes-of.html ^

[claptrap]

Good grief , its no wonder the avarage person wants
no part of religious organizations.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Very sad but it happens. Everyone should simply support both groups.

[NucSubs]

Fundamentalist Protestants disagreeing and splitting angrily into separate factions!

That NEVER happens.

Signed,

A Catholic married to a Methodist who has harsh things to say about THOSE denominations too!

Christians Unite!

[shuckmaster]

My elementary school teachers used to tell the class that once you tell a lie, you have to keep making up more lies to cover the first lie and eventually everyone knows you're a liar and doesn't believe anything you say. AIG is so far gone on layer after layer of preposterous lies that splitting into two different groups won't help them now. The only result from this is that now the fools who support that group will be confused about which lie to believe. HA! HA!

[LiteKeeper]

Please pray for peace and reconciliation. Creation ministry is too important to be damaged by this sort of thing.

[Hebrews 11:6]

Thanks for posting this!

[Hebrews 11:6]

You need to read this. I know you're an AiG supporter, but I also know, by your excellent reporting on Hovind's trial, that you're willing to look critically at questionable behavior, even where it involves young-earth creationists.

[GourmetDan]

"Reactions, anyone?"

I always liked the AiG, "Defending Scripture from the very first verse" statement.

Sarfati does an excellent job in his book 'Refuting Compromise'.

The Technical Journal was good. I wondered what was going on when that stopped.

Now, if I could just get them to accept Setterfield and Bouw, they'd be a great bunch of guys. ;-)

[Elsie]

Good grief , its no wonder the avarage person wants no part of religious organizations.

Nope...

The AVERAGE person DOES belong to a 'religious organization'.

[editor-surveyor]

"Reactions, anyone?"

This appears to be the result of "Nicolaitanism" finding it's way into creation research organisations. The rebukes that Christ directed toward the nicolaitan churches would seem to also be appropriate here. Each org should be autonomous if the truth is ever to prevail; no international body could possibly have a monopoly on the truth, and truth cannot be directed through a humanist filter.

I.E. the split is for the better.

[editor-surveyor]

"Christians Unite!"

The body of Christ has always been united, under The Lord, not under some nicolaitan 'bishops.'

[RobRoy]

>>Reactions, anyone?<<

Human beings, once again demonstrating why Jesus had to die on the cross.

At least when I demonstrate it, it doesn't hit the press...

[atlaw]

There seems to be no concrete way of determining who is right and who is wrong

Pretty much sums up the whole of "creation science."

[FreedomProtector]

"The Technical Journal was good. I wondered what was going on when that stopped."


The technical journal is a very good resource. From what I have seen, in my humble opinion the magazines put out by Creation Ministries International are superior in quality to the resources the newly formed AIG US group puts out. The changing of the magazine subscriptions by the US AIG group without notification on how to get the other was sadly an example of imperfect Christians acting within their own fleshly pride instead of the Spirit of God. The truth of God's creation speaks loudly and articulately in spite of imperfect people and imperfect para-church organizations.

Ministries involved in teaching the truth about creation are obviously under attack, at many levels and at many sources....they need prayer and our support. The root of the attacks can often be attributed fleshly pride. Whether it is man shaking his fist at God saying I don't need my Creator and arguing passionately than his own Creator doesn't exist, or the fleshly pride of imperfect people speaking the truth about creation. The battle often confronts our own fleshly pride but it is also "against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms".

FYI. You can still get the technical journal...

Why aren't I receiving Creation Magazine or Journal of creation any more?
Why aren't I receiving Creation Magazine or Journal of creation any more?

[NucSubs]

Ah...so you missed the point entirely then didntja ya...

[Sopater]

I've received "Creation" magazine for several years now, and have received the first two issues of AiG's new "Answers" magazine. I think that I'm going to switch to "Journal of Creation" from CMI though, now that my "Answers" subscription is to expire. I'm looking for good scientific articles that discusses the evidence, and not so much a "worldview" shaping magazine.

I don't try to follow what happened in the split, and I pray for both orgs since I believe that they are all trying to serve the Lord in their own way, and all believe that they are doing what they need to do. I do pray that neither group tries to harm the testimony of the other for their own sakes.

[editor-surveyor]

"Ah...so you missed the point entirely..."

Then illuminate us. What do you think the point should be?

[editor-surveyor]

"Please pray for peace and reconciliation."

The Lord told us not to seek peace, (Mat 24) for there must not be peace, but division, and promised (in Mat 10:34) to bring not peace, but division.

"Creation ministry is too important to be damaged by this sort of thing."

It won't be; it will be enhanced by allowing the uncontrolled flow of His truth. Large organizations stiffle truth.