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Today's Nun Has A Veil--And A Blog (Time Magazine Article on Young Catholic Nuns)
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| 11/13/2006
| TRACY SCHMIDT, LISA TAKEUCHI CULLEN
Posted on 11/14/2006 6:43:27 PM PST by Pyro7480
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To: AnAmericanMother
I grew up thinking that nuns' habits were designed for holding and concealing large quantities of school supplies, athletic equipment, candy ...
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posted on
11/15/2006 6:53:42 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: ArrogantBustard
Don't forget the yardstick!
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posted on
11/15/2006 6:55:45 AM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: ArrogantBustard
I see a lot of women in this part of Nashville in the abaya, and I know some of the Nashville Dominican sisters. The Dominicans are always smiling, and always seem to radiate a certain ... peacefulness.
I've never seen a woman in a abaya smile. They mostly look frightened and/or suspicious.
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posted on
11/15/2006 7:22:54 AM PST
by
Campion
("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
To: Campion
A further point ... the neighbourhood I recently moved from had a fairly substantial mohammedan population, and a fairly substantial Indian (Hindu and Sikh) population. All tended to wear "old-country" garb, particularly the women. The Hindus & Sikhs were generally friendly and happy, both in respect to their coreligionists and to us native Americans. The muzzies were hostile. These are generalizations, of course, with exceptions on both sides.
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posted on
11/15/2006 7:32:23 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Pyro7480
I happen to know a few of the Sisters of Life in New York. They are not just highly intelligent and holy but also fun and loving. God Bless the Sisters of Life!
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posted on
11/15/2006 1:15:10 PM PST
by
Raquel
(Abortion ruins lives)
To: ArrogantBustard
You
promised you'd visit The Penguin the day you got out...
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posted on
11/15/2006 1:25:09 PM PST
by
6323cd
("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
To: Raquel
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posted on
11/15/2006 1:51:41 PM PST
by
juliej
To: Campion
If those are the Dominicans Sisters of Saint Cecilia, I can never turn down one of their fundraising letters. I think they just completed a huge new dorm for postulants if memory serves. There is also a Dominican Province called the Dominican Sisters of Hawthorne named after the natural sister (or daughter; forget which) of Nathaniel Hawthorne located in New York. Their habit is different though.
F
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posted on
11/15/2006 3:31:00 PM PST
by
Frank Sheed
(Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
To: Campion
Some or all of the orders that they're talking about here are not "traditional" if by "traditional" you mean rejecting the 1970 Missal.
Most or all of them are "traditional" in the Mother Angelica sense, but I think it makes more sense to just call them "orthodox". I never heard traditional Catholicism defined in that way. I consider Mother Angelica traditional. I'm sorry if it doesn't make sense to you but I'll just stick to traditional rather than orthodox.
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posted on
11/15/2006 3:41:36 PM PST
by
TradicalRC
("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
To: Frank Sheed
I just visited the Dominican Sisters of St. Cecelia two weeks ago, and participated in the mass there. It was absolutely beautiful.
-A8
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posted on
11/15/2006 6:43:10 PM PST
by
adiaireton8
("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
To: adiaireton8
What I find amazing about these Sisters is there "gleam" of joy. It completely infuses them!
My aunt was a Sister for 53 years. She had a deep influence on my Faith life and was a beloved nurse.
Frank
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posted on
11/15/2006 6:48:57 PM PST
by
Frank Sheed
(Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
To: Pyro7480
After Vatican II when the Church Opened Up and Modernized, many orders jumped right into the New Age and fell apart as the sisters held "encounter sessions" and learned that God was a goddess. As the orders modernized the sisters became social workers living in apartments and the prayer aspect of Religious life faded away. So did the orders. It was the death of many Catholic schools around the country as there were fewer and fewer Teaching Sisters. Those orders that retained their traditions and their Habits thrived as they continued to receive new postulants while the others withered away with no new vocations.Thus we have the fund drives every year in the Parish and in your mailbox to support the aging retired sisters who didn't abandon the Veil but whose Houses have had no new postulants for 30 years. It is the picture of our social security system but speeded up and more extreme; more and more retirees and fewer payroll tax payers to support them.
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posted on
11/16/2006 2:27:42 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: incredulous joe
"Taking the Veil" is an old phrase, very traditional.
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posted on
11/16/2006 2:29:49 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: ArrogantBustard
Those generalizations are confirmed hereabouts. No Sikhs here but lots of Hindus and Mohammedans.The Mohammedan women look always dour and avoid interaction. They do not respond when clerks say good morning. The Hindu women always seem cheerful and willing to talk.
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posted on
11/16/2006 2:38:38 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: TradicalRC
"Traditional" refers to Tradition of all sorts, not just one tradition, such as the Tridentine Mass. Traditional orders are ones that didn't go New Age in the modern parlance and then wither up.
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posted on
11/16/2006 2:42:29 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: arthurus
Then it's reintroduction is probably not accidental, nor is it a bad thing, and quite possibly a stick in the eye of some of the "progressive hippie nuns" (re: nuns who think they ought to become priests) to have come out of the 60's and 70's.
I thought that it may have had some regional implications. The nuns that taught me, Sisters of St. Joseph in the Philadelphia area, used "taking our vows".
We have one sister that has come out of my parish and another (just out of high school) who I believe was still discerning. Both young women are what I always imagined nuns to be, not some of the left wing propagandists that I hear about these days.
I think this is good news for the Catholic church.
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posted on
11/16/2006 6:29:02 AM PST
by
incredulous joe
(“Share the Gospel at all times, and, if necessary, use words.” -- St. Frances of Assisi)
To: AnAmericanMother
The major difference between the burka and a nun's habit is that the face is visible. If anything, the veil and habit concentrate the viewer's gaze on the face.Until about 100 years ago, almost all Christian women kept their head covered, normally with what we would today call a headscarf or veil. Just look at the clothes of the little children Our Blessed Mother has visited at Fatima, Lourdes and elsewhere.
To: Andrew Byler
I'm an ex-Episcopalian, and until the lunatics fatally infected that church, we ALWAYS had our heads covered during Mass (and yes, we used to call it Mass). The cathedral parish in Atlanta had little leather boxes in the narthex with stacks of black and white lace doilies for anybody who had forgotten their chapel veil!
Fact is, a "high" Episcopal church was more Catholic in appearance and ritual than your average wreckovated Catholic church.
But it's a whited sepulchre -- they've kept the traditions, but their theology, such as it is, has gone completely Unitarian.
Which is why we're Catholic. Fortunately, we've found a very orthodox parish -- no veils, but sound doctrine, good homilies, and (thank you St. Cecilia!) good music.
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posted on
11/16/2006 6:44:48 AM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: incredulous joe
The 60s and 70s were, in part I believe, a shakeout of the orders that returned the nuns to the world who didn't belong in cloister. It was a burden for those who stayed and had no backup as they aged, though.
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posted on
11/16/2006 8:26:54 AM PST
by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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