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Short answer: having been Cathlic and having been around Catholics is no guarantee that you know what the Catholic Church teaches. (Or that I know what the Catholic Church teaches.) Longer picky answer:
Matt 16:18f is not the only source for the thinking that the Church has the gift of the Holy Spirit and is in many respects reliable. There's what the word apostolos means, there's the Resurrection appearance in John, as SOME (not all ) examples of other places one could in, good will and using one's pious wits directed toward obedience to God, reach the opinion that the Church has some pretty awesome authority.

The reason for having "even an academic discussion regarding the Scriptural basis etc." is that, as has been said more than once on this thread, doctrine arises not from any creature or any kind but through the Scriptures AND the magisterium and is conveyed through traditions, among which the Scriptures are chief.

I meant what I said about how Doctrine is not derived from Any one source of undefined temrs, axiomata and postulates. It's not that kind of thing. It's kind of like what Aristotle says (or, rather, implies) early in the Nichomachean ethics about different sorts of subject matter get different sorts of argument. Consequently I am not prepared to agree, and I don't think the Church is prepared to agree, with the proposition that doctrine supcercedes Scripture.

I don't know what it means that my Spanish version of the Catechism was in my ammunition bag. But what it says is that the Scriptures are the word of God and that they and tradition interpenetrate one another. That is different from supercession.

When I, personally, think that Scriptures alone (Oh, the guys that crucified the Lord probably spoke Greek, by the way) are not the whole deal, it makes me nervous. On the other hand, I have seen plenty of Scripture Alone types disagree adamantly with one another, so I guess I'd end up just as nervous in any case. But what the whole thing comes down to for me is that at every monent I have to place my hpe and trust in God's continuing direction not only of me personally, but of the Church, so that, tug at the leash as she does, she will never stop being reliable. "In a certain way" (waffle words beloved of Catholics) I don't so much trust the Church, as I trust that God will act and teach and all the rest through her.

Consequently, I do not see that we think that Scripture is superceded by dogma. And I do not, in my own life, find that believing the incomprehensible mess that the church is (on another thread I compared it to an avalanche - and the Catholics there approved the metaphor) means I place my trust so much in IT (or her, or whatever) as in God.

So, if you base your approach to the question on the idea that the Catholics think that Scripture is superceded, I think a lot of Catholics won't be able to find the necessary agreed upon principles or shared ground upon which to build a dialog. Wed have to go back further to trusting in the mercy of God.

I thought the thread was about what the Doctrine was, not about where it came from or whether it was any good. So I didn't have much problem with the title.

Thanks for so clearly phrasing your view of the question. I hope my response is, uh, responsive.

I invite (implore) other Catholics to tell me how inadequate (and in what particular way the inadequacy is manifested) my account of this aspect of Catholicism is.

Short answer: having been Cathlic and having been around Catholics is no guarantee that you know what the Catholic Church teaches. (Or that I know what the Catholic Church teaches.)

Which is why I refer to Cardinal Gibbons and his colleagues for clarification when I could find no justification for Sunday worship in the Bible.

Yes, the true Catholic view is that the scriptures are a tradition handed down by the church, the church coming before the scriptures. I thought I said this already.... a few times.

What's the deal with all that exclusionary language? Common men need not apply?

If doctrine does not supercede scripture, then show me the scripture for Sunday worship, Christmas, Easter, Mary worship, the trinity, et. al.

I don't know what it means that my Spanish version of the Catechism was in my ammunition bag.

tal vez, estaba haciendo "canonized" :)

My faith is quite tidy and easy to comprehend. If I had made such a comment, I would be getting lambasted. Maybe that was the point of this thread. Hmmmm.

Most Catholics have no clue what their religion is all about. God is not merciful to willful disobedience, so many live happily and purposefully in blissful ignorance and delegate their salvation to the clergy.

I thought the thread was about what the Doctrine was, not about where it came from or whether it was any good. So I didn't have much problem with the title.

Well, we'll never know what the thread was supposed to be about since the troll who posted it is nowhere to be found. Hack, the mods even removed the thread from the troll's home page.

I invite (implore) other Catholics to tell me how inadequate (and in what particular way the inadequacy is manifested) my account of this aspect of Catholicism is.