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Like most historians, I’m still waiting for proof that Peter ever ventured to Rome. Why would he, he had already shown that he was unworthy by denying Christ three times. And after denying Christ, we don’t hear about him much. So this has been , denier (sp) of Christ went on to Rome and became the first pope . Excuse me if I don’t buy into this whole thing.


13 posted on 10/27/2006 9:04:15 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: doc1019
still waiting for proof

A marked grave ain't enough?

after denying Christ, we don’t hear about him much

Read the book called the "Bible". It is for sale in "Christian" book stores. Inside, look for Acts, two letters of Peter, and Galatians and do a word search for "Cephas" and "Peter".

Also, read the following in the Gospel of John (it is also a part of the "Bible" book):

Jesus saith to Simon Peter: Simon son of John, lovest thou me more than these? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs. 16 He saith to him again: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs. 17 He said to him the third time: Simon, son of John, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he had said to him the third time: Lovest thou me? And he said to him: Lord, thou knowest all things: thou knowest that I love thee. He said to him: Feed my sheep. 18 Amen, amen I say to thee, when thou wast younger, thou didst gird thyself, and didst walk where thou wouldst. But when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and lead thee whither thou wouldst not. 19 And this he said, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had said this, he saith to him: Follow me.
This is after the betrayal.

The "Bible" book is also available online: Douay-Rheims Bible

It is good that you have such vibrant interest in Christianity. I'll be glad to help if you have questions, as will many others.

18 posted on 10/27/2006 9:46:53 PM PDT by annalex
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To: doc1019

I would direct you to the end of the Gospel of John, the Acts of the Apostles and the Letter of Peter. Then again, maybe those aren't the "proper sources" for your not hearing much about him.


35 posted on 10/28/2006 2:31:55 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: doc1019
"And after denying Christ, we don’t hear about him much."
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I agree with your assessment about being skeptical.

Peter was a great Apostle, but his mission field was among the Israelites and if I understand the history correctly there was not a large Jewish or Israelite community in Rome. Jesus did bring Peter back into the fold with the miraculous catch and the meal after wards where he told him to "feed my lambs".
50 posted on 10/28/2006 7:50:37 AM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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To: doc1019
Like most historians, I'm still waiting for proof that Peter ever ventured to Rome.

How about the fact that his tomb is there?

Why would he, he had already shown that he was unworthy by denying Christ three times. And after denying Christ, we don't hear about him much.

You'd better blow the dust off your Bible, and read the closing chapter of the Gospel of John, then read Acts at least up to chapter 15, then read the two epistles written by someone about whom you say "we don't hear much".

90 posted on 10/28/2006 11:02:19 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: doc1019
Like most historians, I’m still waiting for proof that Peter ever ventured to Rome. Why would he, he had already shown that he was unworthy by denying Christ three times.

The main reason he never went there was because of a direct command from the Lord. [Matthew 10:5-6]

627 posted on 11/05/2006 12:03:10 PM PST by Diego1618
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