[Hambone02]

Tongues is confusion in today's "tongues". When the Apostles spoke in tongues in the Bible, others understood. Today it is a big show for self gratification.

[Quix]

Today it is a big show for self gratification.
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STRAW DOG.

I've seen BIG SHOWS FOR SELF GRATIFICATION

of virtually every "Christian" kind in all kinds of denominations from Roman to Charismatic including Lutheran, Baptist, Episcopal, Methodist, Presbyterian etc.

The variety amongst those hostile to Holy Spirit's doing the same thing in this era He's always done are merely different from those in some Charismatic groups.

Straw dogs are not Biblical nor full of logical consistency.

[chesley]

I've attended a couple of charismatic services. One even called themselves Baptist (but not Southern Baptist). Some woman would get up and speak and the Preachers (yes, two of them with cross chatter) would interpret. Generally it was that the Lord wanted the congregation of dig deep.

The Lord told them that they would get $1000 during this service, and by golly they did. Of course, they had to pass the bucket (yes, a Kentucky Fried Chicken, this was before KFC, bucket) around about 10 times before they did.

They did healings. Headaches and depressions disappeared. It was a miracle. The girl who had invited my fiance and I went down. She was blind in one eye. She was still blind in one eye when she returned to her seat, but she felt a LOT better.

The piano played the entire time. The pianist was very, very good.

The other wasn't actually a charismatic service. I was serving as a summer missionary in Ohio (for the Southern Baptists, though). We went to an interdenominational service, a crusade of some sort in Columbus.

It wasn't actually charismatic. The speaker didn't indulge at all. But a number of the audience evidently did. During the whole service we could hear a little buzz of, well, babbling. it rose and fell in volume. Very weird it was. But it was never acknowledged in any way from the podium, and so did not disturb me at least. Although it took me a while to determine what it was.