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To: Global2010

I would suppose key points for your future defenses against non-Cs would include 1. infallibility of the Pope (and whether Peter was actually mandated as such) 2. The celibacy of priests when the Apostles had families and there is no Biblical command to be such 3. Non-Cs place almost exclusive faith in the Scriptures whereas Cs have traditions and council edicts that they follow as well 4. The authority of the church to change the day of worship from Sabbath to Sunday (you realize it was the churchs authority, don't you?) 5. The veneration of the virgin Mary (of course we all respect the position of trust she was given but non-Cs go little beyond that) I could go on but this is a start.


7 posted on 10/19/2006 12:45:23 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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Thanks please continue.

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8 posted on 10/19/2006 12:58:56 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: BipolarBob
2. The celibacy of priests when the Apostles had families and there is no Biblical command to be such

I think this point needs addressing. When you say "families" are you referring to wives and children or just any familial tie? Because I do not believe that anywhere in the New Testament is it mentioned that the Apostles were married with the exception of St. Peter. And in his case, it is not clear from the Scriptures the disposition of his wife. Only his mother-in-law is mentioned. His wife is not mentioned directly. It is possible that she had died.

But even if she was living, that does not negate the Church's discipline (not doctrine) of clerical celibacy, since it does not hinge on Peter or any of the Apostles being married or not married.

It also does not hinge, since it is a discipline, on it being mandated in the New Testament.

Celibacy is a changeable discipline (and exceptions or dispensations are made even in the Latin Rite of the Church today)that is based on both the practical and the spiritual. It is practical to have celibate priests because of the 24/7 demands on a priest's time which may not be present for a Protestant minister. It is also spiritual in that celibacy represents imitation of Christ, who was also celibate and a devotion to God's work.
51 posted on 10/21/2006 7:21:37 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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