[Conservative til I die]

Well there we are. You (and your church) wish to impose judgment on these poor people who are absolutely desperate.

This is rather condescending to the poor. As if they're noble savages to whom morality need not apply.

They are children of God and capable of making moral choices. Abortion and contraception is not moral to us prosperous Westerners, and it isn't to these people either.

Abortion and contraception will never pull up the Third World. The reason the Third World is what it is, is because of corrupt dictatorships, authentically savage notions of tribalism and sectarianism, war, lack of education, lack of a commercial structure, etc. Basically, it's because their whole system of doing things (businesswise, politically, religiously, etc.) is out of whack. The Judeo-Christian world has prospered because that system of life breeds success, compassion for others, tolerance, knowledge, reason, etc.

[BipolarBob]

The reason the Third World is what it is, is because of corrupt dictatorships, authentically savage notions of tribalism and sectarianism, war, lack of education, lack of a commercial structure, etc. Basically, it's because their whole system of doing things (businesswise, politically, religiously, etc.) is out of whack.

We can agree on this it seems and not much else. Contraception is not the same as abortion, but you must follow the teachings of your church so you will disagree. Why continue this?