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To: annalex
There is nothing in the scripture that prohibits teaching on subjects not contained in the scripture.

Where the subject touches the relation with man to God, and it isn't found in the scriptures, it is false doctrine.

Teaching authority of the Catholic church are not found in the scriptures, only by scripture. By scripture alone is implied throughout the Bible, starting at the law of Moses continuing to the new covenant of faith and belief taught by Jesus.

Else how shall we discern what is the teaching of men according to their own empowerment? The Catholic church is shot thorough with homosexuality and sodomy. How do we assume those who created doctrine not scriptural were no less corrupted?

We can't. All we have to go by in truth is the scriptures. For those are words of the Apostles. Nowhere in the Catholic church is an Apostle. The men who define policy therein are separated from Apostleship by many layers of self-serving and corruptible men.

Jesus said that the kingdom of God lies within each of us. Any part of it that lies within the church, any church, is lent thereto by Godly men. But there are also within each church unGodly men. How shall we tell the difference?

We tell the difference by what has been written in the heat of the events that transpired by the ministry of Jesus and those who were touched by Him.

There is no person in the Catholic church in the time extra-scriptual doctrine was devised that was touched by Jesus.

This is without challenge; it is truth.

Now, where is the doctrine, taught by Jesus, expounded by Peter to the Israelites and by Paul to the non-Israelites that prayer may be made to human beings living or dead, and if dead, whatever they did in life?

186 posted on 10/25/2006 5:21:59 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell
Where the subject touches the relation with man to God, and it isn't found in the scriptures, it is false doctrine

This is your personal opinion. It may be shared by many, but it is not what the scripture and the Church teaches.

Teaching authority of the Catholic church are not found in the scriptures, only by scripture

Not in only by? What is that supposed to mean? I showed you the verses that describe the teaching authority ogf the church in the strongest of terms. It is also what the Church actually did, as we see in Acts.

By scripture alone is implied throughout the Bible

I'd like chapter and verse, please. I could tell you how prayer to saints is "implied". Both are interpretations, -- but mine is backed by the apostolic authority of the Church. Yours is a personal interpretation, warned against in the scripture.

The men who define policy therein are separated from Apostleship by many layers of self-serving and corruptible men.

Some are and were corrupt, and some were homosexual. Others were canonized as saints and died for our faith. The apostolic succession, however, is described in the scripture and the Church as a whole cannot err, on the promise of Christ, also contained in the scripture.

There is no person in the Catholic church in the time extra-scriptual doctrine was devised that was touched by Jesus.

Jesus primised us His body forever present in the Eucharist. This is another scriptural truth you choose to ignore.

where is the doctrine, taught by Jesus, expounded by Peter to the Israelites and by Paul to the non-Israelites that prayer may be made to human beings living or dead

The communion of saints filled with martyrs in post-scriptural period and successors of Peter explained the meaning and drew the parameters of the cultus of saints. None of that contradicts the scripture. The Church was doing her job. She always does.

187 posted on 10/25/2006 6:32:10 PM PDT by annalex
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