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Pope Receives Kissinger
Zenit News Agency ^ | September 29, 2006

Posted on 09/30/2006 7:04:04 AM PDT by NYer

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To: the invisib1e hand
is it safe to assume that neither of you are Catholic?

NO! it is NOT safe to assume.

Perhaps you should research your Christian history. Christ left us "A Church" the Pillar and Foundation of TRUTH.

The Catholic Church is that Church!

21 posted on 09/30/2006 5:54:29 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: the invisib1e hand

The Pope meeting with Kissinger is NOT surprising.
Remember, Christ met with those who crucified HIM.


22 posted on 09/30/2006 6:09:35 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi
The Catholic Church is that Church!

you are, as they say, "preaching to the choir."

23 posted on 09/30/2006 6:10:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("...does not suffer fools gladly...")
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To: NYer
Is shaking hands with Kissinger anything like kissing the Koran?

Does that photo which shows them looking into each others eyes and smiling imply that Benedict is in cahoots with Kissinger, who knows the Rockefellers who are helping to bring about the one world government?

24 posted on 09/30/2006 6:35:41 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Pyro7480; Dark Skies
Friday, Sept. 29, 2006 10:47 a.m. EDT
Henry Kissinger: 'Victory Only Meaningful Exit Strategy' in Iraq

I would be overjoyed if Mr. Kissinger could dissuade His Holiness of his opposition to the Alliance's intervention in Iraq, saying that it has "has no moral justification" -- and convince him to support the efforts of Bush and our allies there. But I won't hold my breath.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI#Concerning_the_war_in_Iraq

25 posted on 09/30/2006 9:37:29 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: the invisib1e hand
>is it safe to assume that neither of you are Catholic? That, if someone were to write a book claiming evidence that the Pope is antichrist, you'd recommend it to me, right?

You mean like this one?
But, no, it is ludicrous
to judge a Freeper's

religion [!] just by
comments they make en passant.
Freepers ain't shallow

and most Catholics
aren't like Muslims, afraid
bad words can hurt them.

26 posted on 10/01/2006 11:35:25 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss
but most non
catholics are attracted to
conspiracy theories
like flies are to
doo doo.

/ ee cummings mode

27 posted on 10/01/2006 2:08:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("...does not suffer fools gladly...")
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To: NYer

At least he isn't meeting with him in "secret" like President Bush is said to be! :-)


28 posted on 10/01/2006 2:20:00 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: the invisib1e hand
Yes, he most certainly IS a fascinating character. One of the more fascinating and intriguing characters in the last century.

Although there is not one book in particular that I would recommend, I have read several about him.

Reading what several others think about him, my own personal conclusion is that he has an absolutely brilliant mind and is an incredibly ambitious man (when it comes to power and status); however, he is also very, very two-faced, an opportunist, and someone (like Slick) who THRIVES on the limelight and the attention of others (in a very Machiavellian way--personal gain at the expense of principle and morality--especially when it came to 'turf-fighting' and power grabbbing). He was hardly a man of 'principle'--not even close.

He was responsible to a great extent for our policy of 'detente' (a term which he picked up from a personal meeting with Charles DeGaulle). In some conservative quarters (Ronald Reagan, in particular)--that policy was nothing more than 'appeasement'--which allowed the USSR to continue to grow militarily while we stood still.

He was the 'antithesis' to today's 'neocon'--as his policies were much more attuned to the much more liberal Rockefeller-wing of the Republican Party (which is why Reagan very rarely called on his expertise). To put his political philosophy in today's terms--he would be classified as a RINO--a cross, or mix of, McCain and Guiliani.

Again, just my own observations.

29 posted on 10/01/2006 2:26:13 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: stockstrader
Very well thought out observations of Kissinger. I agree with your comment on the liberal Rockefeller-wing of the Republican Party

Wolves in sheep's clothing. correct?

30 posted on 10/01/2006 7:16:36 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: NYer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701290/posts


Kissinger warns of possible "war of civilizations"
news.yahoo.com ^ | Sep 13, 1:23 PM ET


WASHINGTON (AFP) - Former US secretary of state Henry Kissinger warned that Europe and the United States must unite to head off a "war of civilizations" arising from a nuclear-armed Middle East.

In an opinion column in the Washington Post, the renowned foreign policy expert said the potential for a "global catastrophe" dwarfed lingering transatlantic mistrust left over from the Iraq war.

"A common Atlantic policy backed by moderate Arab states must become a top priority, no matter how pessimistic previous experience with such projects leaves one," Kissinger wrote.

"The debate sparked by the Iraq war over American rashness vs. European escapism is dwarfed by what the world now faces.

==>> "Both sides of the Atlantic should put their best minds together on how to deal with the common danger of a wider war merging into a war of civilizations against the background of a nuclear-armed Middle East."

Kissinger wrote that the big threat lay in the erosion of nation states and the emergence of transnational groups. Iran was at the centre of the challenge, he said, with its support for Hezbollah, radical Shiite groups in Iraq and its nuclear program.

Washington must accept that many European nations were more optimistic about talks designed to convince Iran to halt uranium enrichment -- a process Tehran denies is aimed at making weapons, he wrote.

But in return, he said, Europe should accept the process must include a "bottom line" beyond which diplomatic flexibility must not go and a time limit to ensure talks did not become a shield for "developing new assaults."

In the article, Kissinger, national security adviser for former president Richard Nixon, and secretary of state for Nixon and his successor Gerald Ford, warned the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah was still dangerous, after its month-long conflict with Israel.

"Hezbollah's next move is likely to be an attempt to dominate the Beirut government by intimidation and, using the prestige gained in the war, manipulating democratic procedures," he said.

He concluded by noting that observers wondered whether, after the Cold War, trans-Atlantic ties could survive the loss of a common enemy.

==>> "We now know that we face the imperative of building a new world order or potential global catastrophe. It cannot be done alone by either side of the Atlantic. Is that realization sufficient to regenerate a common purpose?"


31 posted on 10/01/2006 7:45:22 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. The LORD is thy keeper!)
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To: Esther Ruth

Dear Sister,
What is your opinion of Kissinger?


32 posted on 10/01/2006 7:56:10 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi
That's a good description. That's precisely why Reagan mostly avoided him.

Even President Nixon, who greatly respected Kissinger's intellect, realized that Kissinger had unbridled ambition and bared considerable 'watching'. Nixon even warned others to 'be careful about Henry'.

I'm not surprised that President Bush is seeking his advice--since President Bush is to the left of Reagan. I just hope he doesn't have any permanent position in mind for Henry, other than just 'picking his brain'--which is probably not a bad thing, especially if only done in private.

I wish that their meetings had not become public, though, as the President deserves PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL advice from whomever he chooses.

33 posted on 10/01/2006 8:41:56 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: stfassisi
Whatever your opinion, the fact is that Europeans are loathe to confront the notion of a rising Islam. Europe is so apathetic and ashamed of its past that it is willing to let a very large Muslim state join the EU. That would be a demographic disaster for Europe, as Turkey would become once again a Muslim bridge into Europe. A secular Turkey is an illusion. Already Britain, France and the Low Countries are threatened by a surging Muslim minority, which is now aware of their lack of resolve.
34 posted on 10/01/2006 9:18:58 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NYer

Pope Receives Kissinger

This should read, "Kissinger Receives Pope"


35 posted on 11/19/2006 11:41:19 AM PST by pleikumud
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