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Radical Muslims attack two churches Iraq: demand catholics post condemnation of pope's words
Asia News ^ | September 25, 2006

Posted on 09/25/2006 1:20:31 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

I think you are right. +BXVI just flexed his muscles and showed the world how not to be afraid. Now imagine the power of the Pope of Rome coupled with the power of the Moscow Patriarch and the prestige of the EP (not to say the power and money of his flock in America) and the Patriarch of Antioch (together with the Melkite and Maronite Patriarchs). Jerusalem I fear may be a lost cause for now and Alexandria, well, we'll have to see. The new Patriarch there is very, very respected in Africa and may turn out to be a force to be reckoned with there.


41 posted on 09/26/2006 10:00:22 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: flash786
"[the Pope's] policy of child abuse cover ups in the vatican , ant-contraception promotion in africa"

What is "ant-contraception promotion"? Is it fire ant prevention? If, so, I'm all for it.



43 posted on 09/26/2006 10:51:53 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Kolokotronis

Hey, brother. I was thining about you the other day. I was in Tarpon Springs down by the Sponge Docks and I remembered when one of your Prelates was there last Easter and the young men dove into the water trying to be the first to retrieve the Cross he had thrown in there. Very neat town. Me and the Bride are talking about going there for next Easter to witness all this firsthand and also, let's be honest, to have a chance to chow down on some Greek Food and wine :)


44 posted on 09/26/2006 3:04:52 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: Kolokotronis; NYer; Petrosius; TaxachusettsMan; Carolina
[re supporting Turkey's entriy into the EU] In many ways, its the EP's only hope for survival in Constantinople

I can see that as a bare necessity IF there was any hope things will change. But, I don't know how to put it to you, Kolo, there is no hope Constantinople will ever be non-Muslim. If anything, things will get worse. Islam is on the offensive, IMO. I believe Turkey's entry into the EU will open the flood gate for Muslim invasion of Europe for the second time.

Sometimes, Dhimifiacation was necessary to survive. In this particular case, it is a lost cause. The sooner this is understood the better. I think Christianity needs to draw a line in the sand, but Christian Europe has forgotten its Christian roots. It seems to me it is desperately trying to be "accepting" and "understanding" and "tolerant" and all-inclusive because that's what Washington has been drumming into their heads since 1945.

Besides, dhimification doesn't win anything; it's a reprieve, a minimum payment to stay alive short of converting to Islam. It was never a bargaining chip. It can keep status quo at best, and that is even doubtful.

I believe that all Muslims in this world will eventually show their true colors. They must, because otherwise they will be counted in the same group as Christians and Jews, trying to co-exist peacefully with them. That's a sin according to Islam. The wages for sin are death.

The only thing Muslims hate more than Christians and Jews are, IMO, Muslims who are not "hot" enough, but "lukewarm," and the apostates among them.

Turkey will install a Turk as the "Ecumenical Patriarch." He must be a citizen and cannot be naturalized. It's time to establish Ecumenical Throne in Moscow, the third Rome, where over 80% of world's Orthodox Christians belong. This is in keeping with the Fourth ecumenical Council's proclamation that honors and privileges are those of churches of imperial and state dignity.

It's time to establish Greek Patriarchy, with an eternal claim to Constantinople (as Serbia is about to enact a Constitution which eternally put claim on Kosovo) and its liberation from Islam.

I think Europe should be reversing the tide, but we have been building "islamiyas" in Bosnia and Kosovo, as we have created Afghanistan Taliban and provided, indirectly, fertile ground for al Qaeda with our myopic and naïve foreign policy of "playing the natives."

I am convincxned that if Christianity does not come together and kick Islam out of Europe, Europeans nations will have their own Bosnias and Kosovos in a relatively short time.

Let's not forget the way Islam treats Christianity (in S. Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, etc. there are NO churches; pretty soon, the same will be true as other Muslim countries become Islamic).

Islam only pretends to be tolerant, IMO. The Kuran teaches no tolerance with infidels. In places where it doesn't have to be tolerant, it has shown no tolerance at all!

45 posted on 09/26/2006 8:00:39 PM PDT by kosta50 (Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Salvation

Good links, thanks.


46 posted on 09/27/2006 1:32:06 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: kosta50

"I can see that as a bare necessity IF there was any hope things will change. But, I don't know how to put it to you, Kolo, there is no hope Constantinople will ever be non-Muslim. If anything, things will get worse. Islam is on the offensive, IMO. I believe Turkey's entry into the EU will open the flood gate for Muslim invasion of Europe for the second time."

I agree with you, kosta. But the EP clings to the hope that the Patriarchate can survive in Constantinople. Personally, I think its over and he should move to Mount Athos or even here to the States.


47 posted on 09/27/2006 3:05:44 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: bwteim
Ant contraception?

Fascinating ... some insecticides actually work that way ... they don't kill the insects, just sterilise them. It allows the insect to carry the poison back to its nest and spread it to the other bugs.

I wasn't aware that the Vatican had a position on the matter ... but OK. Maybe they had a cockroach infestation ...

48 posted on 09/27/2006 5:46:16 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Heheh! Preventing fornication would lessen chances for formication;)


49 posted on 09/27/2006 6:03:55 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: bwteim

Je$$e? Dat you?


50 posted on 09/27/2006 6:12:41 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

You know, I can just hear him say something 'profound' like that;)


51 posted on 09/27/2006 6:24:43 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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