The words of Vatican II you quote says no such thing, and mentions no church at all.Did you not read the words "Christ and of his Church?"
Just "hearing" about the Church and its doctrine would not be sufficient to meet the conditions laid out above. Without the Sacraments, you would have no way of knowing the truths of the Church (capital "C").
Did you not read the words "Christ and of his Church?" Just "hearing" about the Church and its doctrine would not be sufficient to meet the conditions laid out above. Without the Sacraments, you would have no way of knowing the truths of the Church (capital "C"). Ah, so then I'm not saved unless I become a Catholic. Or, to not be saved I must become a Catholic and become possessed of the sacraments then fall away. The doctrine is confusing.
Let's be clear. I am not a Catholic. I accept Christ as my Lord and Savior. I know much of Catholic doctrine and I reject it as mostly pronouncements of a council of fallible and corruptible men.
Am I saved, by your doctrine? And, If I am not, then what must I do to become saved?
"Christ and His Church" has to do with the body of believers regardless of denomination, and regardless of what the Catholic church thinks.
