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Regarding the suggestion of a separate forum for science threads, I think that's a big mistake. Science is news. The education controversies over teaching science are news. The alleged anti-science attitude of the Republican party (so lovingly perpetuated by the MSM) is news. Editorials about such issues are also news. Such news affects the success of the Republican party. Further, it is (in my always humble opinion) very valuable to have such issues discussed in the news forum because it continues to attract highly educated conservatives -- such as scientists and other academics -- to this website.

On the other hand, there are blog articles related to these topics, often lacking in science content, which obviously belong in the blogger forum, or sometimes chat. But there is no need for the creation of a separate science forum. The news forum seems entirely appropriate.

You may recall, about three years ago, there were a few extremely disruptive posters who were trying to get all science articles banned from this website. Fortunately that effort failed, and most (but not all) of those disruptors managed to get themselves banned. There is no reason to revive their cause by considering a ban of science articles from the news forum. The problem isn't with the subject matter, it's with a few disruptive people. The problem will be easily handled with a few "Stay off this thread!" posts from the mods.

561 posted on 09/20/2006 9:49:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Science-denial is not conservative. It's reality-denial and it's unhealthy.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Regarding the suggestion of a separate forum for science threads, I think that's a big mistake. Science is news. The education controversies over teaching science are news. The alleged anti-science attitude of the Republican party (so lovingly perpetuated by the MSM) is news. Editorials about such issues are also news. Such news affects the success of the Republican party. Further, it is (in my always humble opinion) very valuable to have such issues discussed in the news forum because it continues to attract highly educated conservatives -- such as scientists and other academics -- to this website.

On the other hand, there are blog articles related to these topics, often lacking in science content, which obviously belong in the blogger forum, or sometimes chat. But there is no need for the creation of a separate science forum. The news forum seems entirely appropriate.

You may recall, about three years ago, there were a few extremely disruptive posters who were trying to get all science articles banned from this website. Fortunately that effort failed, and most (but not all) of those disruptors managed to get themselves banned. There is no reason to revive their cause by considering a ban of science articles from the news forum. The problem isn't with the subject matter, it's with a few disruptive people. The problem will be easily handled with a few "Stay off this thread!" posts from the mods.

Good post. It deserves to be repeated.

569 posted on 09/20/2006 10:16:27 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Religion Moderator; Admin Moderator
Regarding post #561, there is no substance to that arguement. Science is a marvelous topic and deserves serious discussion...in science class. Here on FR, that translates to science threads.

In the same way the scientists here consistently say to 'keep religion out of the science class', we should be keeping science class out of the news/activism forum.

Science is not a mainstream area for conservative activism. It's not even on the radar of priorities...and the statistics in the opening paragraphs of the original post confirm that.

Not to mention that an elite group of chosen people get to participate in certain News/Activism posts, and a hand picked (by who?) group of people cannot, goes against FR principals, as Religion Mod rightly pointed out earlier. Cetainly there is, at the very least, an equal amount of FReepers who view each side of this discussion as "disruptors".

Scientists who threaten to leave The Republican Party because of different opinions about evolution in particular, deserve the same treatment here that the single issue border fanatics have received, from JimRob on down. Anyone who enables Democrat victories by turning against Republicans does not have our support and should leave.

Single issue border turncoats are somewhat of a significant minority...single issue evolution turncoats are miniscule in the national majority we enjoy.

Last, I repeat my example; where would an article about Christianity/Islam impact on war/terror/politics be categorized by the mods? If it was a discussion about the principles of Christianity and Islam, it would be put in Religion.

I am suggesting the exact same thing for science. No one is suggesting a ban. That type of spin smacks of liberalism. All logic should substantiate the unique needs and discussions around how evolution and science should be categorized on the leading grass roots, conservative, political forum that is Free Republic.

Thanks for your consideration.

660 posted on 09/20/2006 1:35:47 PM PDT by NewLand (Always Remember September 11, 2001)
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