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To: Virginia-American
Please document "many" instances of "present" "evolutionists" who "have all the answers figured out" and are "bending facts every which way to make things come out the way they want."

Do your own research.

All of us, whether we are creationists, evolutionists, or adherents to intelligent design, approach our guesswork about origins with a set of preconceived notions. None of us starts with a blank slate, no matter how much we may try to tell ourselves that. All human beings have a worldview, a way of viewing the world around them.

Ignoring the fact that their are people on all sides of all issues that are willing to manipulate findings and facts to apply to their preconceived notions is being rather naive don't you think?

283 posted on 09/19/2006 10:03:03 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Between the Lines
Ignoring the fact that their are people on all sides of all issues that are willing to manipulate findings and facts to apply to their preconceived notions is being rather naive don't you think?

Science progresses precisely because the preconceptions that people bring to their speculations wash out in the iterative process of investigation, testing and refining of hypotheses.

It appears difficult for people accustomed to apologetics to understand and appreciate how new and different science is as a method and an instution, compared to previous methods for acquiring knowledge.

284 posted on 09/19/2006 10:06:49 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: Between the Lines
Do your own research.

No actually, what you mean there is "Do *my* own research". You made the extraordinary claim that there are "many" instances of "present" "evolutionists" who "have all the answers figured out" and are "bending facts every which way to make things come out the way they want.". You back it up with some actual evidence. Or withdraw the slur.

All of us, whether we are creationists, evolutionists, or adherents to intelligent design, approach our guesswork about origins with a set of preconceived notions. None of us starts with a blank slate, no matter how much we may try to tell ourselves that. All human beings have a worldview, a way of viewing the world around them.

I think I am starting to see your error. Science isn't guesswork. Its hypotheses are tested via predictions and falsification tests. Hypotheses that pass enough of these tests are promoted to "theory" which is the label that scientists apply to established knowlege. Perhaps your beliefs are guesswork and you are projecting.

Ignoring the fact that their are people on all sides of all issues that are willing to manipulate findings and facts to apply to their preconceived notions is being rather naive don't you think?

The thing is, when scientists do this they get caught out by other scientists. It doesn't happen often, and when it does happen it is career-ending for the perpetrator. No second chances.

285 posted on 09/19/2006 10:10:58 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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To: Between the Lines
Do your own research.

<< Snort of Contempt >>

Find some examples or withdraw the claim.

Ignoring the fact that their are people on all sides of all issues that are willing to manipulate findings and facts to apply to their preconceived notions is being rather naive don't you think?

It happens, but it's much more common for anti-evolution activists to lie than for scientists to lie.

Find some examples or withdraw the claim.

290 posted on 09/19/2006 10:40:45 AM PDT by Virginia-American (What do you call an honest creationist? An evolutionist.)
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