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To: Between the Lines
Do your own research.

No actually, what you mean there is "Do *my* own research". You made the extraordinary claim that there are "many" instances of "present" "evolutionists" who "have all the answers figured out" and are "bending facts every which way to make things come out the way they want.". You back it up with some actual evidence. Or withdraw the slur.

All of us, whether we are creationists, evolutionists, or adherents to intelligent design, approach our guesswork about origins with a set of preconceived notions. None of us starts with a blank slate, no matter how much we may try to tell ourselves that. All human beings have a worldview, a way of viewing the world around them.

I think I am starting to see your error. Science isn't guesswork. Its hypotheses are tested via predictions and falsification tests. Hypotheses that pass enough of these tests are promoted to "theory" which is the label that scientists apply to established knowlege. Perhaps your beliefs are guesswork and you are projecting.

Ignoring the fact that their are people on all sides of all issues that are willing to manipulate findings and facts to apply to their preconceived notions is being rather naive don't you think?

The thing is, when scientists do this they get caught out by other scientists. It doesn't happen often, and when it does happen it is career-ending for the perpetrator. No second chances.

285 posted on 09/19/2006 10:10:58 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm PatHenry I'm the real PatHenry all the other PatHenrys are just imitators)
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To: Thatcherite
You made the extraordinary claim that . . .

Not extraordinary at all. Try a google search for "evolution fraud" and you get about 9,960,000 results. Use "science fraud" and you will find about 20,700,000 results! Try "religious fraud" and you will get 3,130,000 results. Do you see a trend here?

No the trend I am trying to get you to see is not that there are more reports on scientific fraud than on religious fraud. It is that there are numerous reports of fraud on all sides. There are just too many that are willing to further their cause by any means.

You seem to have a preconceived notion that scientific thought is of a higher standard or more virtuous than others. We are all human and we are all fallible. There are honest and dishonest men in all camps.

Choosing to ignore this, I dare say, is a tad bit unscientific.

293 posted on 09/19/2006 10:57:41 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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