Posted on 09/18/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
singling no particular freeper out, I will observe that creationists do not seem particularly interested in pursuing data to be found in canned links posted by Patrick Henry.
it's a shame, but it seems to be a consistent fact of the ongoing Luddite War.
Apparently so. The first link isn't working today, but no creationist has mentioned it. (The rest of you have already seen that material, so you don't need to revisit those links.)
But I'm not being judgmental. Everything is true. It's wonderful!
There's never been a time when there wasn't a lot of land above water somewhere on the world. We can tell that for sure. There's no other way to interpret things like non-pillow lava, glacial scarring, well-preserved dry-land environments with delicate features such as animal tracks, and so forth. These things happened on land, whether or not they were ever underwater later. Furthermore, many of them--the tracks, raindrop imprints, insect or worm burrows, etc.--record tranquil features of surface life that would have been obliterated during burial in some ultra-violent catastrophe.
There is no place and no time that looks like water, water everywhere. It's not that the picture is totally unchanging. The continents have drifted, collided, separated, collided again, etc. However, there's always been plenty of land sticking up above water.
Thus, we can't find a great global flood anywhere, nor can creationists agree on where it supposedly is. Most of them say that practically the whole geologic column is the great flood, which is sillier than claiming it's in some small stratum somewhere. (If you're saying the flood sediments are the WHOLE thing or even most of it, you have to explain ALL the dry-land features anywhere up and down the column all over the world as somehow having been buried in one and the same flood. However, that's the typical creationist approach.)
well, I never did more than browse the article on the complete geological column, until now. quite a good article.
Oh yeah? Well, listen, Mr. I've been saying 2 + 2 = 5 for some time now. It's lucky for you that we're in the religion forum, where your ideas are entirely worthy of respect. But if I ever get you in another forum, just watch out!
I have faith in my link.
You're in the right forum.
you want cognitive dissonance? Amish clothing being sold over the internet is cognitive dissonance.
refusing to examine empirical evidence, and/or refusing to accept what literal mountains of such evidence indicate... that's something besides cognitive dissonance.
ah. thank you for clarifying.
yes, that is a puzzlement.
Indeed...when someone has to use all caps, sorry, but I just skim right over it...I refuse to listen to anyone who shouts at me in real life, and I refuse to read anything that is written in so many caps..
The 'low key' response is always much easier to read, and is of course, just much more pleasant...
You can't prove that miracles never happened, because miracles, by definition, don't follow physical laws.
However, such events as the Flood are physically impossible, and if they happened they left no trace in the soils of the past 10,000 years, and the current genetic diversity was poofed into existence following the flood.
in a civil forum, a rapier is as effective as a meat-cleaver, not so?
I also do not undertand this as well...to me, the very essence of having 'faith', is that it requires absolutely no evidence of any sort...if one needs evidence, then to me, it simply is not faith...
Ah, indeed...and more elegant as well...
I also do not undertand this as well...to me, the very essence of having 'faith', is that it requires absolutely no evidence of any sort...if one needs evidence, then to me, it simply is not faith...
You said it better than I did. I don't understand why the 'faithful' require evidence and are so upset at and need to attack anything which might be contrary evidence. They apprently require evidence of their faith, meaning, by definition, they have no faith.
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