Posted on 09/18/2006 1:51:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
Bwaaaaaahaaahaaaa
You may think He is a practical joker based on your assumptions of what happened in time past. Assumptions that, by the way, cannot be scientifically substantiated or repeated in an experiment under controlled conditions.
Why do you care about the answer to that question?
It is as fruitful as pondering whether or not Adam had a navel.
"Honey, have you seen my razor?"
-- Occam
"They took it to the CSI lab. They want to know who shaves the barber."
--Mrs. Occam
"Item: Friar Guillaume's razor ne'er shaved the barber,
it is much too dull."
-- Robert A. Heinlein
Glory Road
Evolutionism implies biological determinism.
A little defensive, aren't we?
I am simply making the point that, for evangelical Christians, the Bible is numero uno, and God included Creation, not evolution, in the Bible. What is the reason for this, other than he wanted us to reflect upon it?
If you don't believe the Bible is numero uno, then that's your prerogative.
Well, I'm Jewish, but I'll give it a shot: It was the point where Adam was born.
A little less glibly, the first human soul was the first along the line of human evolution, who realized "I am," thus becoming the image of God -- "I Am That I Am."
Saying otherwise is really just the flip side of "evolution leads to Naziism, yada yada..."
How do you know that God is responsible for the evidence?
Your point being...?
"the scientific evidence being absolutely unambiguous"
Really? First I've heard that.
That's Shermer for ya. A one-trick pony if there ever was one.
I completely disagree with that! Not the doubt part. That is you and many may have no doubts, and I agree or rather appreciate (with) that.
The notion that there is conflict b/n Biblical literalists and evolution probably has more to do with how one defines a "literalist."
I have met few people in this lifetime who actually have read that text, and even fewer who have read the text in the original language.
I have met none with complete understanding. I have met many who claim to have such a command.
The number 3 (Three) is nonsense in the article.
Keep being nice.
I strongly suspect the author knows that, and he knows that people who care about evidence already accept evolution. He's written this article for the people who don't think along those lines.
Fair enough. Your remark activated one of my hot buttons, which is curiosity at the cognitive dissonance of those who decry scientific knowledge while participating in an internet debate.
Examining your remarks more closely I was probably being unfair.
Really? First I've heard that.
Perhaps you haven't studied it much then.
They're setting themselves up for the fall. When lightning was not understood, it was the work of the Greek and Roman gods. Nowdays we understand how to generate electricity and so as impressive as a bolt of lightning is, there's no great mystery about it.
Similarly, as our abilities to genetically engineer things increases we will eventually be able to produce things more perfectly than anything found in nature.
This religionist view of God as genetic engineer will become silly because human engineers will do a better job. Yet it is not because they consider themselves to be god like in their powers -- but because the creationists of today are so limited in their imaginations of what power a god like being must have. Just as the ancients thought only gods could produce electricity.
Actually God did include evolution in the Bible. We've just lost the reference in the translation from Hebrew to English.
Genesis 2:7:
Then God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
The Hebrew translated as "formed" has its root in the term for a potter's work. A potter does not throw down his clay and have in instantly take the form he wants. He molds it through various intermediate forms, shaping it and reshaping it, until it reaches the shape he wants.
Therefore God, did not create man in an instant, but shaped and reshaped "the dust of the ground" until He had created man.
Which is a remarkably on-target analogy for evolution.
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