If they are saved, their souls are in the presence of God...
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Your both quotes, outside of their proper context and in the sense you quote them, reflect Gnostic beliefs in evilhood of flesh, condemned by the Church a long time ago.
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction. 17 You therefore, brethren, knowing these things before, take heed, lest being led aside by the error of the unwise, you fall from your own steadfastness.