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To: .30Carbine; alpha-8-25-02; All

I respectfully disagree with Oswald here:

*Never* Surrender. Negotiate terms if you must, and live to fight another day. But never, ever Surrender. Death before dishonor.

God does not require us to Surrender: Allah does. And Allah and his False Prophet Muhammad be Dam'ned: I'll see them both in Hell before I *ever* surrender.

God wants us to follow His Son as Christian Soldiers, equipped to fight the wiles of the Devil equipped per Ephesians 6. We are not granted permission to surrender arms: the sword of the spirit, or the breastplate of righteousness, or any of the rest.

When we accept our commission as Christian Soldiers it is to the death. Surrender plays no part: ours is a willing enlistment into His ranks and into His Command. As volunteers: not as conscripts as Allah would have.

I'll voluntarily follow Christ to Hell and back again and take the skin of the Devil as our trophy. And if I'm permitted to lead a host or two of Saints, better still. Either way, the Sword of the Spirit will be wielded in my hand and never surrendered.

Surrender is for the French and other cowards. It is *not* for Christian Soldiers. It is a foreign and repugnant concept to be discarded with contempt immediately.

Me, surrender? Hell No! No way in Texas. Not this Christian Soldier -- not so long as my arse points toward the ground -- and *that* is final.

Crikey. I have not yet begun to fight. And I'd rather die than surrender.

Allah can kiss my arse or meet me in a dark alley.

*DieHard*


6 posted on 09/13/2006 5:00:02 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Ro 1:1 ¶ Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

GOOD TO SEE YOU IN FIGHTING FORM MATE!

CHAMBERS WAS STATING WE SHOULD SURRENDER TO THE LORDSHIP OF CHRIST AND NO OTHER,INCLUDING OURSELVES.

LIKE OUR DECEASED BRETHREN THE HIGHLANDERS HAD,COMPLETE FEARLESSNESS BECAUSE THEY NEW GOD IS COMPLETELTY SOVERIEGN;

http://www.personal.kent.edu/~ltaylor1/USFormoutline.pdf#search=%22%22SCOTS%20HIGHLANDERS%22%20AND%20%22GOD'S%20SOVEREIGNTY%22%22

KIA KAHA!


7 posted on 09/13/2006 5:44:34 AM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: DieHard the Hunter
God wants us to follow His Son as Christian Soldiers, equipped to fight the wiles of the Devil equipped per Ephesians 6.

Dear DieHard, I hope you will be patient with me and read my whole post, though it is a long one. I do love you and so I took extra time with this for your sake!

Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.

In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.

I'm so glad you brought up Ephesians 6:10-18! We are to be strong in the Lord and in His Mighty Power! Amen!

As I understand it, the Belt of Truth was the most important item of armor - you will note it is listed first! - for every other piece was attached to this one, and without it none of the other armor could be worn. As I've also heard, the men of that day, much like Scotsmen, wore a skirt-like item instead of pants, and the belt was absolutely necessary so that he could tuck the fabric in and run, not being "tripped up" - even in our own day there is a darn good reason why men wear belts (;

Also, it is important to note what the offensive weapons of our warfare are, namely, Prayer and The Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God, and the Word of God is the Truth! Without the Word of God the Christian Soldier has no Sword, or failing to have the whole Word of God the Soldier has an embarrassingly broken blade.

If you attempt to "fight the devil" with the devil's own weapons, you will lose every time, for that evil one is the master of evil and the father of lies and all liars. Satan is a fallen angel, an eternally conquered foe, but he is an angel nonetheless, and given reign in this time as prince of "the rulers, the authorities, the powers of this dark world and the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms (6:12)." All who fight with his powers - whether they know it or not - are serving him.

Jude speaks of these things:

And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves.

God the Father of Truth is very patient with us, not wanting any to perish, but all to come repentance (2 Peter 3:9). As Oswald Chambers phrases it,

God never forces a person’s will into surrender,
and He never begs.
He patiently waits until that person willingly yields to Him...
...The surrender here is of my self to Jesus

10 posted on 09/13/2006 1:08:46 PM PDT by .30Carbine (May God Be The Glory!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I'll voluntarily follow Christ to Hell and back again and take the skin of the Devil as our trophy. And if I'm permitted to lead a host or two of Saints, better still. Either way, the Sword of the Spirit will be wielded in my hand and never surrendered.

I Love that, DieHard! Awesome Post!

27 posted on 09/14/2006 11:28:32 AM PDT by Kitty Mittens (May the Trumpet Sound Today!)
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