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BIRTH OF MARY, September 8th
EWTN.com ^ | not giben | A. Valentini

Posted on 09/07/2006 11:32:47 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: bigcat32

So you don't believe in the promise of eternal life with the Lord?


101 posted on 09/08/2006 11:04:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
Here's one of my favorite chants. On Vatican radio at 4:40 PM Eastern Time, Compline chant is broadcast and I love hearing this:


102 posted on 09/08/2006 11:07:57 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: wagglebee

I do.


103 posted on 09/08/2006 11:09:11 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: wagglebee
Are you saying that the only Bibilical miracles were performed by Christ?

The point of my post, OBVIOUSLY, was that we will not perform miracles under own power.

As far as forgiveness, you might want to reread Matthew 16:19

Even if we assume the Catholic interpretation of the "power of the Keys", the power is still God's.

As far as omniscience goes, where in Scripture is it stated that only God is omniscient?

Like the "Trinity", it is not explicit but rather implicit in virtually every description of God (that He is omniscient) and man (that he is not). Are you arguing for omniscience of beings other than God?

I noticed you didn't question the issue of creative powers. If we are going to be "like Him", are we going to have OUR OWN creative powers?
104 posted on 09/08/2006 11:12:03 AM PDT by armydoc
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To: bigcat32

But you don't think your father has entered into Heaven? Perhaps he is in Purgatory.


105 posted on 09/08/2006 11:12:41 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Salvation

Ave Maria, ora pro nobis. A presto. We need it. Big time.


106 posted on 09/08/2006 11:13:28 AM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." — Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: wagglebee

Hasn't anyone ever asked their mother to talk to dad,when he's said no to something??????Humans are constantly asking for others intercession...Catholics are just luckier than most because we know we can ask the Blessed Virgin and saints for help....Non catholics could ask,but none of them wants to admit,it might work[Then they would have to turn into a catholic,something liberals despise and want to get rid of]


108 posted on 09/08/2006 11:16:50 AM PDT by fishbabe
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To: COBOL2Java
Yes, to protect her. Ever hear of groupies?

Interesting. Please cite the scriptures you think I was refering to.

109 posted on 09/08/2006 11:19:03 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: guinnessman
Did you not notice the "rather" in 11:28? Boy, you guys sure labor to twist the plain words of scripture to your own purposes.

And of Matthew 12:46-50 and Mark 3:31-35?

115 posted on 09/08/2006 11:27:42 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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He may be in Heaven but I don't see Biblical evidence of prayer or talking to the dead. Prayer to anyone other than God is prohibited. You must be familiar with the 10 Commandments.


116 posted on 09/08/2006 11:28:06 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: armydoc

I've been thinking about this, armydoc.

I think that you may be right to interpret what I wrote as saying that we shall be omniscient exactly as God is. No creature can be as God is. So our knowing in heaven must be a special kind of knowing--knowing about God and who He is.

And if we can know him as He is, there is , by implication, a knowing that we do not possess here on earth.

I do appreciate your asking me to clarify what I wrote and I will certainly try to do so. I know I will learn from it.

I see that I may need the help of my better-educated Catholic brethren here.



118 posted on 09/08/2006 11:30:42 AM PDT by Running On Empty
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You referred to "omniscience" and I answered about omniscience. I didn't answer about omnipotence. Nor did St. Paul refer to omnipotence, but he did to omniscience. Maybe you can help me with that.

1 John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.

I don't see how that argues for our omniscience. It simply states that we will see the full glory of God.
119 posted on 09/08/2006 11:31:37 AM PDT by armydoc
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