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To: Meletus

It is also worth noting that when the "angel" visited Mohammed, Mohammed was afraid and remained that way. In the Bible, whenever anyone was visited by an angel of the Lord (Joseph, Mary, etc.), the very first thing the angel did was to assure them that there was nothing to fear and they were calmed. This would seem to indicate that whatever spirit visited Mohammed was satan or one of his demons, it WAS not an angel of the Lord.


3 posted on 08/20/2006 3:02:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Real Prophets climb mountains to be closer to God. They don't crawl into holes to hear the hissings of the Serpent.


21 posted on 08/20/2006 3:12:41 PM PDT by null and void (Islamic communities belong in Islamic countries.- Eric in the Ozarks)
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To: wagglebee
The Koran has one prophesy, that Mohammed will return to Mecca. Not that much of a biggie in the big scheme of things. The Bible, on the other hand, contains many thousands of prophecies. Nearly one-third of the Bible is directly or indirectly related to prophecy.
22 posted on 08/20/2006 3:13:35 PM PDT by stm (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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To: wagglebee
This would seem to indicate that whatever spirit visited Mohammed was satan or one of his demons, it WAS not an angel of the Lord.

I'll go a step farther...the more I see and learn of this wicked religion, I'm not sure that Mohammad was not Satan himself incarnate.

25 posted on 08/20/2006 3:18:56 PM PDT by top 2 toe red (To the enemy in Iraq..."Don't bet on American politics forcing my hand!" President Bush)
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To: wagglebee

Indeed Mohammed's first impression was that this apparition was a demon or a geni.

It was his wife who convinced him otherwise and this took her a considerable amount of time to do.


26 posted on 08/20/2006 3:19:20 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: wagglebee
It is also worth noting that when the "angel" visited Mohammed, Mohammed was afraid .....

Franklin Graham said it first and best: Allah is not the God of Moses since Allah had no son......

The good news is that Islam doesn't control earth's strategic real estate and never will. Neutralizing Islams big cheese imams will neutralize their entire population. It is the glorious plan of the chicoms to rule the remnant after we blow ourselves to kingdom come.

39 posted on 08/20/2006 3:38:47 PM PDT by x_plus_one (No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public)
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To: wagglebee

It should also be noted that Satan often takes the form of an angel of light. The abusive behavior of Mohammad's "Angel" and his lack of knowlage to the fact that Mohammad was illiterate, and the pure nonsense of the first "sura" (verse) atributed to the birth of Islam should make any sane person question the validity of Islam. Then there's the fact muhammad thought himself as possesed by a demon, and attempted suicide.
Then his "angel" never visited him again for a couple years.
It was during this time his first wife conspired with mohammad to create the illusion that he was a prophet. However,most in his tribe knew him as the retarded kid who had fits. It's also speculated that Mohammad killed his old wife, and that is when he became the Prophet of doom.


54 posted on 08/20/2006 4:25:07 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: wagglebee

That's a good point (about the angels) I had never considered before. Thanks.


60 posted on 08/20/2006 4:54:20 PM PDT by livius
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To: wagglebee
"It is also worth noting that when the "angel" visited Mohammed, Mohammed was afraid and remained that way. In the Bible, whenever anyone was visited by an angel of the Lord (Joseph, Mary, etc.), the very first thing the angel did was to assure them that there was nothing to fear and they were calmed. This would seem to indicate that whatever spirit visited Mohammed was satan or one of his demons, it WAS not an angel of the Lord."

Amen! You nailed it!
81 posted on 08/21/2006 5:42:23 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: wagglebee

Excellent point. One of the hallmarks of a heavenly apparition is that the recipient experiences great fear at the outset, but followed by soothing calmness - usually at the behest of the apparition. Fear is a self-centered attitude, and receiving a heavenly message requires a negation of self in that "moment" of event.


82 posted on 08/21/2006 5:53:47 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: wagglebee

"not an angel of the lord" - Gee, you think?


85 posted on 08/21/2006 7:00:31 PM PDT by The Cuban
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