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Hindu “Mass” Sparks Violent Altercation in Toronto Churchyard
Catholic Family News ^ | Cornelia R. Ferreira

Posted on 08/16/2006 5:31:28 PM PDT by Coleus

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1 posted on 08/16/2006 5:31:31 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Why can't they just start their own churches instead of taking over others'??


2 posted on 08/16/2006 5:37:47 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: Coleus
Throughout the blasphemous puja-Mass, George’s friends Joan and Rose sat at the back, praying Rosaries, Litanies and other prayers. They spoke audibly, but quietly, “so that people would know something was wrong.”

Sounds to me as if they were the ones desecrating the service.

3 posted on 08/16/2006 5:41:05 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Gamecock
George, unaware that the NBCLC was actually founded by the Indian bishops forty years ago in order to Hinduize the Church in India,[1] was scandalized by the idea of pagan rituals at a Catholic Mass.

Haven't we been told that this stuff never happens?

4 posted on 08/16/2006 5:47:47 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Coleus

I don't care what people believe or who/what they worship just as long as it does not include killing me.


5 posted on 08/16/2006 5:53:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: Coleus

They're getting a little slow. It took them 16 minutes.


6 posted on 08/16/2006 5:57:41 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites; Coleus; Gamecock
They're getting a little slow. It took them 16 minutes.

"They" can read just fine.

7 posted on 08/16/2006 6:01:52 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: madprof98
Sounds to me as if they were the ones desecrating the service

Desecrating a desecration?

8 posted on 08/16/2006 6:03:40 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Coleus

Inculturation bumpus ad summum


9 posted on 08/16/2006 6:06:21 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: GeronL
You're being entirely too sarcastic for anybody here to understand what you said.

St. Thomas was already busy Christianizing India while Joseph of Arimathea was Christianizing Wales in the FIRST CENTURY ~ so they had at least a thousand years to work this out before Rome sought supremacy over all the more ancient Christian congregations in the far East and far West.

I would guess the rationale here is that the Roman Catholics in Tranta see an opportunity to pick off the Christians from St. Thomas mission as they get off the Boeing.

That's what you meant, right?

10 posted on 08/16/2006 6:06:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Coleus

Pagan rites at a Catholic church? I'm shocked....shocked I say.


11 posted on 08/16/2006 6:07:03 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: kerryusama04
Fur Shur, we never did the Christmas Day thing ~ supposed to stay at home and tend to that holy site, and on Christmas Eve you wait for the shaman to bring frozen fish.

Must be why the Catholics, even in nearby Russia, never really figured out how to move Santa out!

12 posted on 08/16/2006 6:10:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pyro7480; Titanites; Coleus; Gamecock
Desecrating a desecration?

I really only have one question about this whole thing...

Is Father Thomas D'Sa (Director of the National Biblical Catechetical Liturgical Centre [NBCLC] of the Indian Bishops' Conference in Bangalore, India), the unnamed "pastor" of St Ann's, and the unnamed nuns mentioned at the end of the article (still) in full Communion with Rome following this Mass?

13 posted on 08/16/2006 6:15:58 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Coleus

Great! This will be plastered all over anti-Catholic websites within a matter of hours.


14 posted on 08/16/2006 6:18:30 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: FJ290
Why should it be plastered anywhere? These people were all Catholics doing what Catholics have been doing for centuries.

Besides, didn't David "dance before the Lord"?

15 posted on 08/16/2006 6:25:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I'm not sure I can use the word Christian in association with them, isn't that the whole conflict?


16 posted on 08/16/2006 6:26:08 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: muawiyah
Why should it be plastered anywhere? These people were all Catholics doing what Catholics have been doing for centuries. Besides, didn't David "dance before the Lord"?

Did David dance before the Lord in the Temple? No, no record of that that I am aware of.. besides read the article. This has nothing whatsoever to do with dance.

17 posted on 08/16/2006 6:29:30 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: The Lion Roars
I'd like to get your feedback on the supposedly Hindu elements included in the Catholic Mass described in this thread.

You and I had crossed swords on an earlier Christian/Hindu thread, and I'd trust you to give a fair assessment on whether this was actually Hinduism being presented, or whether the parishoners were overreacting.

18 posted on 08/16/2006 6:30:53 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: GeronL
I think somebody doesn't know much about Christianity in India (dating since St. Thomas went there in the FIRST CENTURY).

My understanding is that both Orthodox and Roman Catholic "groups" have thought it necessary to absorb Thomas' church, and this causes a lot of distress to the RC's in Goa which was formerly a Portuguese colony/trading port.

There are a lot of sites on the net that give you all sides of this "Shivaesque debate".

Still, in this particular event I fail to see the Hindu element. No one did burnt sacrifice, and there was no sharing and shaking of the wheat chaf screen for example.

No one rolled out a linga and poured milk on it either.

What we have is some small group of people who are of the impression that "dancing" in a Christian service is either hareem (forbidden), or so unusual as to quite possibly not be Christian at all!!

Oh, yeah, and the Indian ladies wore silk saris.

Oh, my Heavens~!!

Of course in numerous socities around the world it is common to wear your best clothes to church ~ that old "First Fruits" doctrine at work ~ kind of Jewish, but Christians can do that stuff too.

19 posted on 08/16/2006 6:33:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Community Events June 16, 2006
 
Roman Rite Liturgy of the Eucharist
with religious cultural adaptations of India


July 2, 2006 @ 11:00 a.m.  St. Ann Church
followed by an Indian cultural program of music and dance

Presider: Fr. Thomas D’Sa
Director of the National Biblical Catechetical Liturgical Centre (CBCI) Bangalore, India.

Come participate in a celebration of the Roman Rite Liturgy of the Eucharist with adaptations from the culture of India. Join us on Sunday, July 2 at 11:00 a.m. in St. Ann Church, Toronto located at Gerard St. East and DeGrassi St. (two blocks east of the DVP). Parking is limited, but the TTC 506 streetcar stops right at the church.


20 posted on 08/16/2006 6:35:10 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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