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Well, your concerns about Jeff Davis wh was launching a noble enterprise which had start up costs don't seem to extend to the man who massacred the Constitution and several hundred thousand Americans to enact what were UNCONSTITUTIONAL income tax and draft in the north. Unless you have some provision of the Confederate constitution that Jeff Davis allegedly violated, there is no vilolation by him. The entire civil war was predicated on the preposterous (and murderus) notion of Lincoln and his sycophants that a state could vote dozens of times to reject membership in the union but later still join the union but that a state that had once ratfied the constitution had exhausted for all time its optons and was therefater condemened to be in the union regardless of the dsires of the state or its people (See Amendment X for proof to the contrary).

Nancy Landon Kassebaum was an execrable US Senator from Kansas so that counts for no more than my having been a Republican party official in Connecticut afflicted by Lowell Weicker. Now if you did to Kassebaum the sorts of things I did to Weicker, that would be a different story. If you were a contemorary of Virgil Dechant on the Kansas GOP State Committee and an ally of his that would count for a lot more. If you campaigned for Reagan in Illinois, that's fine. Does that outweigh support for Lincoln, civil war, income tax, draft, ignoring the plain provisions of the constitution? Well probably not. Keep trying though.

I'll raise your efforts by having been a state chairman and regional representative of Young Americans for Freedom, state chairman and National Executive Committee member of the Young Republicans, state chairman and National Commitee member of College Repubicans, attorney for NRA members arrested in Connecticut, attorney for 1100 people arrested in pro-life activity in Connecticut and Reagan's state chairman in 1976, the year he challenged Ford. More available on request.

Jeff Davis was not perfect. Neither were Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee, James Longstreet, J.E.B. Stuart or any number of Southern leaders but each was a damn sight better man than Lincoln and a lot closer to Republican principles as we know them today.

This exercise is NOT pointless. The point which you concede is that you would have to lie to prove yourself conservative which means that you are, ummmm, as liberal as your hero Lincoln.

Well, your concerns about Jeff Davis wh was launching a noble enterprise which had start up costs...

Start up costs? Ignoring the constitution, jailing thousands without trial, launching a war, nationalizing industries, destroying the economy, refusing to staff a branch of government are 'start up costs'? Complete contempt for the beliefs of our Founding Father's are 'start up costs'? Why not come out and say it? It doesn't matter what he did, you will forgive Davis anything, anything at all, in your haste to condemn Lincoln. You claim Lincoln massacred the Constitution yet call Davis' massacre of his own a 'noble enterprise'. You lament Lincoln's UNCONSTITUTIONAL income tax and conscription in the North but spare no words against Davis' UNCONSTITUTIONAL income tax and conscription in the South. Unbelievable, but typical of you based on the posts I've seen.

Unless you have some provision of the Confederate constitution that Jeff Davis allegedly violated, there is no vilolation by him.

God you're pathetic. Have you never even read the confederate constitution? If conscription was unconstitutional in the North how could it not be in the South? If income tax was unconstitutional in the North how could it not be in the South? But that wasn't enough for Davis, oh no! He had to go the next step and ignore the constitution's provision requiring a supreme court. One was never established. He had to ignore the constitution's provisions against protective tariffs. One was adopted in May 1861. And I notice that you haven't even mentioned seizing private property and nationalizing industries, obviously having no problem with that. Your fawning over Davis and his socialistic, big government policies would be funny if it wasn't so pitiable. You call yourself a conservative but by your wholesale embrace of Davis and his actions it's obvious what you are. You're a Republiwhigocrat. No political principles, only political expediency. You would support Bill Clinton if he only spoke the right buzzwords.

Yeah, if your version of 'Republican principles' is big, intrusive, socialistic government policies. Plus a love of slavery to boot. Obviously you would fit right in there.

This exercise is NOT pointless. The point which you concede is that you would have to lie to prove yourself conservative which means that you are, ummmm, as liberal as your hero Lincoln.

Yeah it is. You deify a man like Davis without the faintest idea of the crimes he committed. You lie about Lincoln, lie about Davis, and probably exaggerate about your credentials as well. Go away and find someone you can actually snow.