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Woman leads Catholic service in Calif.
AP ^ | 8/14/6

Posted on 08/14/2006 9:08:02 PM PDT by SmithL

SAN DIEGO - A woman who says she has been ordained a Roman Catholic priest led a service during the weekend - despite the risk of being excommunicated.

Jane Via, 58, is among 15 American women who have recently gone through ordination ceremonies that are not sanctioned by the Roman Catholic Church, which bars women from becoming priests or deacons.

A hundred congregants attended her service on Sunday at the Mary Magdalene Apostle Catholic Community in San Diego.

It was her first appearance since meeting with San Diego Bishop Robert Brom to discuss the consequences of her claimed ordination, which could ultimately include excommunication.

Via's congregation is not affiliated with the Diocese of San Diego, which does not consider a Mass celebrated by an unordained officiant to be valid, diocese spokeswoman Bernadene Carr said Monday.

Via was ordained June 24 under the auspices of the pro-female ordination group Womenpriests, which says it has arranged ordinations for dozens of women priests and deacons around the world, including 12 in a Pittsburgh ceremony in July.

According to the group, a male priest presided over the first ordination of seven women in 2002 in Austria. The women were excommunicated by the Vatican in 2003.

Via said such consequences were "unwelcome," but also, in a sense, liberating.

"I was so angry for so long at the church and church men who weren't willing to make even the smallest change in language to include women," she said. "My anger is gone."

A majority of Catholic respondents to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll taken just after the death of Pope John Paul II in 2005 said they favored ordination of women.

A Roman Catholic canon says only baptized men may be ordained.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has not taken a formal position on the issue, but three of the American women who say they are ordained priests received letters from diocese officials warning that they had chosen to excommunicate themselves.

Via, a married mother of two, founded Mary Magdalene Apostle in November as an independent congregation.

ON THE NET

Mary Magdalene Apostle Catholic Community: http://www.mmacc.org

Womensordination: http://www.womensordination.org


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: excommunication; femalepriests; heresy; priestesses; scandal; womenpriests
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1 posted on 08/14/2006 9:08:03 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
From the first sentence of article:
A woman who says she has been ordained...

Uh, uh,... uh, uh.

2 posted on 08/14/2006 9:18:24 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: SmithL

Dear ladies



I can call my dog - my cat, but he's still a dog.


You can call yourself a priest, but it you're still a dog.






3 posted on 08/14/2006 9:26:59 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal
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To: vox_freedom

Why stop at being a RC priest? Why not have your friends swear you in as President? Sheesh.


4 posted on 08/14/2006 9:43:25 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: SmithL

ugh ... grown ... *wretch* ... cough ... ugh


5 posted on 08/15/2006 12:42:00 AM PDT by Maeve (St. Rafqa, pray for us.)
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To: Maeve

yep ... groan


6 posted on 08/15/2006 12:42:32 AM PDT by Maeve (St. Rafqa, pray for us.)
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To: SmithL

"... despite the risk of being excommunicated."

He excommunicated herself the moment she participated in this farce.


7 posted on 08/15/2006 4:54:14 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: SmithL
A majority of Catholic respondents to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll taken just after the death of Pope John Paul II in 2005 said they favored ordination of women.

Really???

In that case they should soon be flocking to Father.....er.....Mother.......er......Sister........er.... Ms. Via's "Masses", right? And also the "Masses" of the other "ordained" women, right? We should soon see an exodus from the official Church of this famous majority who favor the ordination of women, right?

Or could it be that this is a complete crock and Ms. Via and her loony friends will continue to attract a small circle of fellow aging '60s hippies?

8 posted on 08/15/2006 5:41:50 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: lastchance
Why stop at being a RC priest? Why not have your friends swear you in as President? Sheesh.

It's ONLY A MATTER OF TIME before one of these sick, evil, whacked-out women "priests" gets herself "ordained" as bishop, cardinal, then pope. Only a matter of time.

"Pope Mary I" is something we might even see in our lifetime. Excommunicated, she is, but that won't stop her evil.

9 posted on 08/15/2006 5:44:06 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: SmithL; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Via, a married mother of two, founded Mary Magdalene Apostle in November as an independent congregation.

Mary Magdalene - Apostle? And here she is, from Via's home page, preaching to the other Apostles.

Via labels her community as ........

A contemporary, expansive and
universal community
for the promotion of
gospel values and
inclusive liturgical celebrations

10 posted on 08/15/2006 6:23:46 AM PDT by NYer
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To: lastchance
Why stop at being a RC priest? Why not have your friends swear you in as President? Sheesh.

Why not the Pope? Why not the Messiah?

11 posted on 08/15/2006 6:35:33 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("These formidable people....will die for Liberty")
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To: NYer
Our Long Term Goals

In order to fulfill our vision and mission, our Long-Term Goals are to:

† Work for women's equality and justice in all dimensions of life and ministry in our church

† Eliminate all forms of domination, discrimination and oppression against women in our church

† Advocate for inclusive, democratic and transparent church structures

† Promote feminist, womanist, mujerista, and other liberating spiritualities

† Change the word ‘man’ to ‘person’ in Canon 1024.

****************

One wonders about the orientation of these women. Er, persons. Or is it only men who are persons?

12 posted on 08/15/2006 6:44:21 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SmithL

13 posted on 08/15/2006 6:53:23 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: trisham
Persons? Persons? PerSONS???

Don't you realize that they are PerDAUGHTERS??

14 posted on 08/15/2006 7:24:08 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (And they don't sing hymns. They sing hers.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Not only that, but what on earth is a mujerista?
15 posted on 08/15/2006 8:10:18 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SmithL

Shouldn't that be "Womynpriests", in line with their odd marriage of Roman rite and druid theology?


16 posted on 08/15/2006 8:17:15 AM PDT by steve8714 (It's a Murray Head weekend!)
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To: NYer

Sounds like this lady has started a support group for people who don't like Catholic culture, doctrine and tradition.


17 posted on 08/15/2006 8:27:53 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: trisham

http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=874

Communists, basically.


18 posted on 08/15/2006 8:29:52 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart

Yikes. It's like something right out of the sixties.


19 posted on 08/15/2006 8:40:55 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lastchance
>>Why stop at being a RC priest? Why not have your friends swear you in as President? Sheesh.

Or, why even stop at the borders of the US?
Become King of the World!!!

20 posted on 08/15/2006 8:41:25 AM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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