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To: kerryusama04

Since you seem to want to hijack this thread into a 7th Day Adventists dream of promoting Sabath worship, let me ask you a few questions....



Did Christ acquire a sinful nature?

Is it possible for anyone to have the assurance of salvation?

Why is it that nine of the commandments are reiterated in the New Testament, but the "duty" to keep the seventh day as Sabath is not mentioned ONCE?

When the New Testament lists sins, why is Sabath breaking absent?

Why does Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30 say that the seal of God is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and not the keeping of the Sabath?

Do you keep the Sabath by observing from sunset to sunset? No burden carried? No fire kindled (Would that include fire in the engine of your car)? And no cooking?

Do you then enforce these violations by death? (Numbers 15)

These are just a few of the many conflicts that I can post on the conflict of trying to put Sabath Keeping as a requirement for salvation. Please post your answers with Scriptural references.

Sincerely



69 posted on 08/14/2006 10:40:25 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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Protestants have their own traditions, so the debate is more than a bit moot.


70 posted on 08/14/2006 11:06:41 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: ScubieNuc
Since you seem to want to hijack this thread into a 7th Day Adventists dream of promoting Sabath worship, let me ask you a few questions....

The article, all 7K+ words, is about getting Christianity back to being biblical. Keeping Sunday sacred is not Biblical. Dont' take my word for it

Did Christ acquire a sinful nature?

The more appropriate question is "Did Christ sin". Christ never sinned and His death paid the penalty for sin. Sin remains and is defined by the transgression of the law.

Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savor.

1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Is it possible for anyone to have the assurance of salvation?

What scripture do you base this question on?

Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Why is it that nine of the commandments are reiterated in the New Testament, but the "duty" to keep the seventh day as Sabath is not mentioned ONCE?

Not raping children isn't mentioned in the NT? At any rate, Jesus told us how to keep the Sabbath, but the Sabbath remains.

Mar 3:4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.

When the New Testament lists sins, why is Sabath breaking absent?

It isn't. It is included in broader terms.

Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The Sabbath is the foremost thing we can do to show God we love Him.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Why does Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30 say that the seal of God is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and not the keeping of the Sabath?

Eph 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

The article plainly states that scripture cannot contradict scripture. The Holy Spirit cannot lead a man to purposefully sin. Are you saying the indwelling of the Holy Spirit licenses sin?

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Do you keep the Sabath by observing from sunset to sunset? No burden carried? No fire kindled (Would that include fire in the engine of your car)? And no cooking?

Jesus taught us that is is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. What I do to keep the Sabbath holy is not up for debate nor is it any of your business.

Luk 6:2 And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath days Luk 6:3 And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was hungry, and they which were with him; Luk 6:4 How he went into the house of God, and did take and eat the shewbread, and gave also to them that were with him; which it is not lawful to eat but for the priests alone? Luk 6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Luk 6:6 And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered. Luk 6:7 And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him. Luk 6:8 But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. Luk 6:10 And looking round about upon them all, he said unto the man, And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other.

Phi 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Do you then enforce these violations by death? (Numbers 15)

Jesus paid the penalty for sin with His perfect, once for all sacrifice. It is appointed that all men die once, the judgement will determine who gets resurrected and who dies for eternity.

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

These are just a few of the many conflicts that I can post on the conflict of trying to put Sabath Keeping as a requirement for salvation. Please post your answers with Scriptural references.

The only conflict here is the supposed "bible" faiths who obey the pope of Rome by duly keeping the man created Sunday sabbath.

"I have repeatedly offered $1000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic Church alone. The Bible says, 'Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.' The Catholic Church says: 'No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week.' And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in a reverent obedience to the command of the holy Catholic Church. Priest Thomas Enright, CSSR, President of Redemptorist College, Kansas City, Missouri, in a lecture at Hartford, Kansas, and printed in the American Sentinel, June 1883, a New York Roman Catholic journal. Sincerely

98 posted on 08/15/2006 6:54:02 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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