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To: AMHN

So are you saying that the canon of Scripture is still open?


5 posted on 08/14/2006 11:45:58 AM PDT by Gamecock ("Jesus came to raise the dead. He did not come to teach the teachable." Robert Farrar Capon)
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To: Gamecock; AMHN
So are you saying that the canon of Scripture is still open?

I think what he's saying is that the canon of Scripture is written in code, i.e. unintelligible in and of itself.

6 posted on 08/14/2006 11:49:02 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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"So are you saying that the canon of Scripture is still open?"

I'm not making any claim for or against that (I've left that to the Ecumenical councils of the 1st 1000 years). What I am saying is the when modern thought conflicts with earlier traditions I must choose the earlier chosen by the entirety of the Church pre-denominational (all 5 Patriarchs [Rome, Constantinople, Antioch, Alexandria, and Jerusalem], synods, and Bishops).

If Christ promised to send the Spirit of Truth to guide the Church in all Truth then I must by faith believe Christ. For a 1000 years before the great schism, and continuing since then in the Orthodox Church, an unbroken line of the fullness of the Truth has lived.

A very interesting point to consider: The 1st Ecumenical Council of Nicea in 325 AD was conviened to answer a simple question raised by Arius concerning the Divinity of Christ. What is interesting is how they proceeded. The 318 Bishops where not asked to interpret scripture or perform and exegesis of verses. Instead that where asked to express what had been handed down to them via their predicessors (tradition). They had to do this because the scriptures as you hold them today did not exist. What you think is scripture was part of many other books that the Church had to consider. Grant it by 325 AD the Church had a pretty good idea which were going to be included and which ones not. But it was not until many centuries later that the cannon as you see it today was accepted at an Ecumenical level.

Interesting how it lined up perfectly with scripture and was easily defended by scripture. Not because they were all Saints, but in spite of the human element, the Spirit of Truth was present.

I would add this final comment. The modern bible, although very very close is completely inaccurate over some key passages (when lined up with the original Greek). The bias that have found their way into modern scripture has significantly changed many iota's and many tittle's. Outside of Orthodoxy, I can't find a true version absent of bias. A person may say I'm bias, which may be true, but then I have to ask...but what about writings that confirm the original language from the early centuries?

Although my personal opinion, I believe that the same Ecumenical Councils would reject these modern translations as another gospel as they did other minor variations from the Truth.

Although modern translations can guide you close to Truth, humility is what is required to cross the finish line. Pride is the mother of Sola Scripture and ultimately, it will deceive.

18 posted on 08/14/2006 1:04:55 PM PDT by AMHN (Book Survey: Which is greater "Truth" or "Love"? FReepmail a reply)
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