[Quix]

Alamo-Girl is incredibly open--especially for someone of such spiritual, intellectual and Scriptural stature and experience in the trenches of life--to seeing any flaw in her position or personhood.

I fail to see a whiff of such qualities in the thread starter. Perhaps my glasses need a fresh wipe. But I don't think that's the problem.

topcat, Gamecock . . . appears to me that TULIP needs to do some laundry, thorough house cleaning or general basic first grade instruction with one or more members.

Some hideous stuff pretending to be rational Scriptural discourse in an attitude that would make a lot of sailors I know blush in humility.

[topcat54]

Perhaps my glasses need a fresh wipe.

Indeed. Perhaps they need replacing.

[Gamecock]

. . . appears to me that TULIP needs to do some laundry, thorough house cleaning or general basic first grade instruction with one or more members.

Why is that? OP is acting like, well, a Presbyterian. You know, the faith as practiced in Scotland, where the fires the Reformation burned so brightly before coming to the Colonies. The same fire that ignited the American Revolution and gave birth to this great Republic. A no nonsense bunch who forced Hadrian to build a wall and declare the Roman Empire ends here.

We are not a politically correct bunch, many would say we are crass. We do however know what we believe, why we believe it, and we are certainly not carried about by every wind of doctrine.

BTW, have you seen the upcoming CT?

I suspect that as usual, the Reformed are being called in to clean up the mess left by two centuries of American Church messiness.