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To: Cvengr; Quix; Buggman; George W. Bush; jude24; Dr. Eckleburg
Until the Millenium, there is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ, but during the Millenium a different dispensation is in effect and prior to the Cross, there was an Israel made ready to receive her King. Considering Christ was Jewish, why do you want God to damn Himself?

Oh, okay. So, to your way of thinking, Jesus Christ is the sort of fellow who welcomes all to Himself initially, and then says to His beloved Children 'Alright, all you guys in the Master Race shall be Kings, and all you guys in the Lower Races shall be slaves'". THAT'S your "Jesus"?! What Madness doth Heresy work upon the Minds of Men!

1.) In the first place, I am an Amillennialist. I do not believe that Jesus Christ was Lying when He said, in Matthew 12, Mark 3, and Luke 11, that He did in fact Bind Satan in the course of His Incarnation in order to prepare for His Church to Evangelize the Gentile Nations (i.e., "Despoiling The Strong Man's House"). If you want to reject Amillennialism, and believe that Jesus Christ was Lying, then I guess that's up to you. I, however, believe that Jesus was telling the Truth in the Gospels, and that we are currently in the "Myriad of Years" or "Millennium" (i.e., a Long Period of Time) during which Jesus has Bound Satan from preventing Evangelism of the Gentiles, and the Church is evangelizing the Gentile Nations.

2.) In the Second Place, however, if you prefer to believe that Jesus was Lying and reject Amillennialism -- then you must know that the pre-supposition that "during the Millenium a different dispensation is in effect", the Notion that there is or ever will be any kind of Racial Distinction whatsoever between Gentile Christians and Jewish Christians is NOT any kind of Orthodox Christian Theology at all --- but is instead an ugly, Heretical, Racially-Divisive Theology known as "Dispensationalism", which proposed an Un-Biblical distinction between "Israel" and "The Church" and which was developed only as recently as the 1830's, in total opposition to all prior Christian Teaching of the prior 2,000 years.

The Reverend Charles H. Spurgeon, himself an Historical Pre-Millennialist and who, as the "Prince of Preachers", "remains the single most published author in terms of volume in English history and has more material currently in print than any other Christian author living or dead", had this to say about the insane, Racially-Divisive Heresy of "Dispensationalism":

And where the greatest Pre-Millennialist in history has spoken, by comparison to which every lickspittle Dispensationalist in history is but a mud-sucking crawfish, I say let them remain SILENT with their ugly, Un-Biblical, Racially-Divisive, "Dispensationalist" Heresy which contradicts the whole Bible and all Christian heritage, everywhere.

God does not "damn himself".

Rather, according to Galatians 3:28, God Damns all Racially-Divisive Theology -- such as the evil, ugly, Un-Biblical Heresy of "Dispensationalism".

Best, OP

304 posted on 08/24/2006 6:59:40 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Religion Moderator
Never, ever ping me again to the words "God Damn" or any variant thereof. Some of us here read FR from work. Some of us here also expect better from our fellow FReepers than cursing like a toddler who just learned the wrong word from daddy. And some of us here would like the world to see Christian brethren discussing the issues rationally and calmly.

Moreover, do not ping me to this thread again. As far as I'm concerned, you've already lost, as the histrionics you've displayed here do not deserve rational discussion.

309 posted on 08/24/2006 8:11:07 AM PDT by Buggman (http://brit-chadasha.blogspot.com)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
God does not "damn himself".

Well you at least got one thing partially right. Then again, who sent the soul of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus to Hades for three days?

384 posted on 08/24/2006 8:27:45 PM PDT by Cvengr
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