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DISPENSATIONALIST "CHRISTIAN" ZIONISM -- Is there now "neither Jew nor Gentile", or not?
KennethGentry.Com, "Dispensational Distortions" ^ | 2004 | Kenneth Gentry (and OP)

Posted on 08/10/2006 12:22:56 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian

A Young Fool encounters Foolishness

Once upon a time, I was but a wee child in Reformed Theology, taking my first baby-steps into the beautiful Cathedral of Calvinism as a young Debater for Jerry Falwell's world-beating Liberty Debate Team (Our Creed: "Defeat Harvard. Defeat Navy. Defeat American Catholic. Defeat everyone. Crush them all, every time, no exceptions. Win every single National Championship, every year.... because as long as we Calvinists keep winning, Jerry won't excommunicate us for being Calvinists!!".)

Since a Debater is always expected to be able to immediately argue either side of any given question, I spent a lot of time in the local used book-store picking up various books on philosophy and theology and politics and economics... anything I could get my dirt-poor hands on for $2 or $3 dollars a copy. Anything to familiarize myself with multiple intellectual perspectives and multiple modes of argumentation.

Now, in the course of my researches, I happened across a little book entitled War Cycles, Peace Cycles by Richard Kelly Hoskins of Lynchburg, Virginia, regarding the short and long-term economic effects of Monetary Expansions and Contractions in the context of fractional-reserve lending. Hoskins was by no means an uneducated fellow (a capable Financial Advisor and Econometricist, some of his works are still occasionally cited today), but I was singularly disturbed by several passages in which he seemed to suggest a Racial component to Fractional-Reserve Lending (which he called "the Babylon System") versus his contrary suggestions for Joint-Venture Lending.

One passage which stood out in my mind read as follows:

The further I read, the more it was apparent to me that Hoskins regarded "Israel" as The White Race, the Adamic Race descended through Abraham, and that all Non-Whites were considered to him to be zuwr "strangers": Pagans at worst, "Samaritan" Christians at best... but never "Israel".

And so, being the young fool that I was, I did what any young fool would do... I looked Dick Hoskins up in the Lynchburg, Virginia phone book, and called him at his house.

I asked him what he would make of my spiritual position -- a Confessing Christian by Faith, mostly Prussian German by Ethnicity, but with a little 1/16 smidgen of Sioux Nation mixed in 3 or 4 generations back on my mother's side.

Hoskins informed me, quite cordially and without any rancor whatsoever, that God considered me to be a mixed-breed Bastard and that "A Bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." (Deuteronomy 23:2) He advised me to marry "one of my own kind".

Well, I decided at that point (even before I knew him to be the godfather of the "Phinehas Priesthood", the most violent expression of the Christian Identity movement) that even if he was a good money-runner, Dick Hoskins' theology was a barrel full of wet, smelly, foolish Scheißdreck, with which I would have no truck whatsoever. The Christian Creed is this: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:28, KJV).

Unfortunately, however, "Christian Identity" (derived not from pagan Nazism but rather from its bastard godfather, British Israelism) is not the only theology which Racially divides the Body of Christ into Jew and Gentile, "Israel" and "Not-Israel", Blood and Blood-lines.

Dispensational Zionist Foolishness

The future dispensational kingdom involves a racial prejudice favoring the Jews above even saved Gentiles during the millennium. As such it re-introduces the distinction between Jew and Gentile and replaces Faith with Race as a basis for divine favor. Consider the following citations from leading dispensationalists: (DISPENSATIONAL DISTORTIONS PART TWO, Redemptive History Distortions ~~ Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D.)

However, with the establishment of the New Testament phase of the Church, the distinction between Jew and Gentile has been abolished. This was the whole point of Peter's vision of the sheet filled with unclean animals in Acts 10: "What God has called clean, let no man call unclean." Thus, there is no separate Jewish program exalting them over saved Gentiles. THE CHURCH, which includes Jew and Gentile in one body, is the fruition and culmination of God's promises to the Jews. In evidence of this, we should note that Christians are called by distinctively Jewish names in the New Testament. "He is a Jew, which is one inwardly" (Rom. 2:29). Christians are called "the circumcision" (Phil. 3:3), "the children" and "the seed of Abraham" (Gal. 3:7, 29), the "Jerusalem which is above" and the "children of the promise" (Gal. 4:24-29). In fact, Christians compose "the Israel of God" for we are a "new creature" regarding which "circumcision availeth nothing" (Gal. 6:16).

Comparing Foolishness with Foolishness

In closing, I ask only (according to the Hebrew logical-interpretive method of "how much the more?")... if the heretical British-Israel/Christian-Identity Racialists pervert True Christianity by dividing the People of God along Racial lines, then how much the more do Dispensationalists also pervert the Word of God and divide the People of God along equally Racialist lines?

Consider the following:



Those aren't Quotations from Richard Kelly Hoskins... granted, they may sound like Christian Identity quotations, but they aren't.

These are nothing less than direct quotations from the leading lights of Dispensationalism in America -- Ryrie, Pentecost, Walvoord, Hoyt, Hunt, Thomas Ice. (I could've quoted Hagee, I suppose, but the man is absolutely freakin' nutbar).

All that I did was to replace "Israel" with "The White Race", and replace "Gentiles" with "Non-Whites".
Does Dispensationalist "theology" destroy the Racial equality of the Body of Christ? What you see is what you get.

God Damn all Racial Theology.


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To: fortheDeclaration; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD; topcat54

If Christ is King of all things, all things being put under His feet by God Himself, then logically, as well as Scripturally, Christ is King of the church.

This nit-picking of the language seems to be a hold-over from Rome.

Have you read "The Catechism of the Catholic Faith?" I stumbled onto it on the internet recently. It is endless. And it reads like some of the dispensationalist's attempts to redefine clear Scripture and turn something very simple and straightforward into something almost incomprehensible.


761 posted on 09/08/2006 11:40:59 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Well technically a "church" is only a gathering together. "Church" in the real sense= all spiritual Israel, and Christ is King. Since when can't a King be a husband? That is merely a metaphor to show how He loves us, not a reality. No one is going to "marry" Christ and in fact, we are admonished not to even think in those terms.

No, the Church is a spiritual organism, made up of all believers (1Cor.12:12-13) that form the Body of Christ (Eph.1:23), who is His Bride (Eph.5:30,32), just like Eve was part of Adam's body.

There is also a organized church (local) made up of believers.

Ofcourse, we are going to 'marry' Christ.

We do so in Rev.19:7-8.

Now, what that entails, we do not know, but it will mean a special intimacy that only occurs between husband and wife.

762 posted on 09/08/2006 11:42:48 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

Deut 10:9


763 posted on 09/08/2006 11:43:33 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: fortheDeclaration

All things...


764 posted on 09/08/2006 11:44:21 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

We will be conformed to the image of Christ. We will be like Him. Maybe there will be a cake.


765 posted on 09/08/2006 11:46:59 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If Christ is King of all things, all things being put under His feet by God Himself, then logically, as well as Scripturally, Christ is King of the church. This nit-picking of the language seems to be a hold-over from Rome. Have you read "The Catechism of the Catholic Faith?" I stumbled onto it on the internet recently. It is endless. And it reads like some of the dispensationalist's attempts to redefine clear Scripture and turn something very simple and straightforward into something almost incomprehensible.

Christ states that the believer is linked to Him.

It is a faithful saying....if we believe not, yet he abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself.(2Tim.2:13)

No word straining.

The wording is very clear.

The Christian is considered part of Christ's Body and thus, His very self.

In fact, Christ died for the Church, his bride (Eph.5:25).

The wording is too clear and that is what is upseting you.

Calvinism puts God far away from man.

Christianity brings God inside of the believer, in an intimate relationship with him.

766 posted on 09/08/2006 11:48:43 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: 1000 silverlings
We will be conformed to the image of Christ. We will be like Him. Maybe there will be a cake.

and ice cream!

767 posted on 09/08/2006 11:49:17 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: 1000 silverlings

Eph.5:30.


768 posted on 09/08/2006 11:49:48 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration

The HS quickens us, works in us to conform us to Christ intermingled with our flesh and bllod. The HS has power over our body, He can even prevent us from sinning, so yes, even in our flesh and blood.


769 posted on 09/08/2006 11:53:43 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
All things...

Is this the same 'all'that is found in 1Tim.2:4, 'God wants all men to be saved' or in Heb.2:9, where Christ tasted death for all men?

Since Christ and the Church are one, the Church brings all things under Christs feet with Him.

We are co-rulers and co-heirs with Christ.

770 posted on 09/08/2006 11:58:20 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: 1000 silverlings
The HS quickens us, works in us to conform us to Christ intermingled with our flesh and bllod. The HS has power over our body, He can even prevent us from sinning, so yes, even in our flesh and blood.

No, the Holy Spirit doesn't have power over our body or our will.

We have to yield to Him. (Rom.6)

771 posted on 09/08/2006 11:59:35 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration

I agree.


772 posted on 09/08/2006 12:00:43 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg
We are co-rulers and co-heirs with Christ

Of what? We aint got no kingdom. Since only Christians see Him as King, who or what is He ruling over at present? (

773 posted on 09/08/2006 12:02:54 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Have you read "The Catechism of the Catholic Faith?" I stumbled onto it on the internet recently. It is endless. And it reads like some of the dispensationalist's attempts to redefine clear Scripture and turn something very simple and straightforward into something almost incomprehensible.

Show me where I have (as a Dispensationalist) redefined scripture.

It is Covenant/Calvinists who have to redefine clear scripture, drop context, and regarding eschatology, allegorize scripture, just like Augustine and Origen did.

774 posted on 09/08/2006 12:03:33 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; All; JockoManning; Buggman; P-Marlowe; DAVEY CROCKETT; Marysecretary; ...

Here are some interesting websites I just gleaned hurridly--which are quite on topic about Israel--the descendants of Jacob--being front and center in this END TIMES era:

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/Israel.html

--which is titled: ISRAEL--GOD'S TIMEPIECE. The site also seems to be a good one about analyzing the news in light of Biblical prophecy.
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INCREASE IN KNOWLEDGE: NEW TECHNOLOGIES related to Biblical prophecy here:

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/technology.html

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BASIC NEWSWATCH PAGE AT THAT SITE:

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/

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OMEGA NEWSLETTER HOME PAGE (I think it's subscription beyond intro summaries)

http://www.omegaletter.com/

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A curious WAR OF THE ANGELS website. Some interesting threads. Don't know about it's Christian orthodoxy but seems in the ball park.

http://www.waroftheangels.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi

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SUPERNATURAL TESTIMONIES AND DREAMS OF THE RAPTURE here:

http://www.waroftheangels.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=4375ce3fbe4f416ae01627fbcb6efa90;act=SF;f=4

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WW III THREAD at that WAR OF THE ANGELS SITE:

http://www.waroftheangels.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=4375ce3fbe4f416ae01627fbcb6efa90;act=ST;f=6;t=140

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WHERE IS THE USA IN PROPHECY from PROPHECY NEWSWATCH SITE

[NOTE--I don't know how many of their docs I'd agree with nor how much, if at all]:

http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/usa.html

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POLL: DO YOU BELIEVE THE 2ND COMING OF CHRIST WILL OCCUR IN YOUR LIFETIME:

YES - - - - - - -57%
NO - - - - - - -39%
NEITHER - - - - -03%

HERE:

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=18938

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CHRISTIAN THINK TANK:

"Critically examine everything; hold onto the good."
I Thess 5:12

here:

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/

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INJESUS ONLINE PROPHECY NEWS WATCH:

http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=list&GroupID=AA006SGW

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THE WRITING ON THE WALL CHRISTIAN FORUM

Inclueds dreams interpreted and not.

http://www.christian-forum.net/

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KOINONIA HOUSE MINISTRY OF CHUCK AND NANCY MISSLER

http://www.khouse.org/

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GRANT JEFFREY MINISTRIES:

http://www.grantjeffrey.com/

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EARLY CHRISTIAN CHURCH UNEARTHED NEAR ARMAGEDDON site:

http://www.prophecynet.com/showthread.php?p=28793

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051106...ast_church_dc_4

One inscription on the floor indicates that a Roman soldier helped pay for the mosaics, and another dedicates a table to the memory of Jesus, archaeologists said.

Christians faced varying levels of persecution under the Roman Empire, interspersed with periods of calm. It was during such a lull that archaeologists believe the Megiddo church was built to serve a local Christian community.

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THIS WEEK IN BIBLE PROPHECY at PROPHEZINE:

http://www.prophezine.com/ProphezineForums/tabid/364/view/topics/forumid/8/Default.aspx

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TEMPLE MOUNT--ARCHEOLOGY ETC:

http://www.templemount.org/

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ROMAN CATHOLIC VIEW OF PROPHECY AND THE COMING CHASTISEMENT:

http://www.marianland.com/proph001.html

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JIM SEARCH BOOK--GREAT JOY IN GREAT TRIBULATION . . . & UMPTEEN DOZEN OTHER PROPHETIC TYPE LINKS:

http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/index.html

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GOOD ARTICLE ON NON-CESSATIONIST PERSPECTIVE ABOUT MIRACLES FROM GRANT JEFFERY'S SITE:

http://www.grantjeffrey.com/article/mystery.htm

The Mystery of When Miracles and Healing Ceased
[From Unveiling Mysteries of the Bible]

For many Christians one of the greatest mysteries is that the tremendous miracles, healings, and supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit enumerated in 1 Corinthians 12, which characterized the life and worship of the early Church, seem to have ceased by the beginning of the second century. Many theologians have dogmatically asserted that God provided for supernatural miracles and the gifts of the Holy Spirit only to attract the attention of the pagan world and provide divine authority for the introduction of the New Testament as God’s inspired revelation. They assert that within a century of Christ’s resurrection, all miracles and signs had ceased permanently. Many have claimed that these supernatural signs ceased when the apostles died. Some writers and denominations have asserted this theory as absolute dogmatic truth and reject even the possibility of genuine supernatural miracles occurring today.

Several writers have claimed that a search of the writings of the early Church indicates that there are no references to these "gifts" continuing beyond A.D. 100. However, during the last few years I have carefully examined the writings of the early Church writers from the time of Christ till the Council of Nicea in 325 that were collected in a set of ten volumes known as the Ante-Nicene Library and first published in 1890. After an exhaustive search of these fascinating early Christian writings, I can confirm that God continued to manifest His supernatural power including miraculous healings, resurrection from the dead, and demonstrations of charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit well beyond the age of the apostles. Further research in the writings of the medieval Church provide compelling evidence that miracles, though rare, continued to manifest from time to time in a variety of places as attested by responsible historical authorities.

There are brief references to the prophetic gifts still continuing as reported in the early Church manual known as the Didache (A.D. 110). "And every prophet teaching the truth, if he doeth not what he teacheth, is a false prophet. And every prophet approved and found true, if he doeth ought as an outward mystery typical of the Church, and yet teacheth you not to do all that he himself doeth, shall not be judged before you; he hath his judgment in the presence of God; for in like manner also did the prophets of old time.


Bishop Clement’s Letter to the Corinthians, written by the bishop of Rome (A.D. 100), refers to the continuing supernatural work of the Holy Spirit. "An abundant outpouring also of the Holy Spirit fell upon all.


The Shepherd of Hermas (A.D. 110) also contains a reference to speaking in tongues and prophecies. "When then the man who hath the divine Spirit cometh into an assembly of righteous men, who have faith in a divine Spirit, and intercession is made to God by the gathering of those men, then the angel of the prophetic spirit, who is attached to him, filleth the man, and the man, being filled with the Holy Spirit, speaketh to the multitude, according as the Lord willeth.


In addition, there are numerous significant references to these supernatural gifts continuing in the life of the early Church in the following centuries.

Irenaeus
The brilliant Christian teacher Irenaeus wrote a treatise against heresies called the Refutation and Overthrow of Knowledge Falsely So Called (A.D. 185) that recorded many manifestations of the gifts of the Holy Spirit and supernatural miracles that still continued in some churches, including accounts of people being raised from the dead: Some drive out demons really and truly, so that often those cleansed from evil spirits believe and become members of the Church; some have foreknowledge of the future, visions, and prophetic utterances; others, by the laying-on of hands, heal the sick and restore them to health; and before now, as I said, dead men have actually been raised and have remained with us for many years. In fact, it is impossible to enumerate the gifts which throughout the world the Church has received from God and in the name of Jesus Christ crucified under Pontius Pilate, and every day puts to effectual use for the benefit of the heathen, deceiving no one and making profit out of no one.


Similarly, we hear of many members of the Church who have prophetic gifts and by the Spirit speak with all kinds of tongues, and bring men’s secret thoughts to light for their own good, and expound the mysteries of God.


Irenaeus also wrote about the gifts of the Holy Spirit in Against Heresies: "In like manner we do also hear many brethren in the church, who possess prophetic gifts, and who through the Spirit speak all kinds of languages, and bring to light for the general benefit the hidden things of men, and declare the mysteries of God." (Irenaeus, Against Heresies 5:6:1)

Justin Martyr
Justin Martyr wrote his Dialogue with Trypho in A.D. 165 and clearly referred to many supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit appearing in the daily life of the second-century Church. He wrote, "Daily some of you are becoming disciples in the name of Christ, and quitting the path of error; who are also receiving gifts, each as he is worthy, illumined through the name of this Christ. For one receives the spirit of understanding, another of counsel, another of strength, another of healing, another of foreknowledge, another of teaching, and another of the fear of God.


Tertullian
Tertullian was a major theologian and Christian writer ministering in Carthage. In A.D. 215 he described supernatural visions and prophetic gifts of the Holy Spirit as operating normally in the third-century Church. "And thus we who both acknowledge and reverence, even as we do the prophecies, modern visions as equally promised to us, and consider the other powers of the Holy Spirit as an agency of the Church for which also He was sent, administering all gifts in all, even as the Lord distributed to every one."


Origen
Origen was a Christian theologian who lived and taught in Alexandria, Egypt, from A.D. 185 to 254. In his book Against Celsus written in 250, Origen described the gifts of the Holy Spirit as still continuing in the life of the Church. "Traces of the Holy Spirit who appeared in the form of a dove are still preserved among Christians. They charm†demons away and perform many cures and perceived certain things about the future according to the will of the Logos.


Origen noted that these charismatic gifts were gradually diminishing, although some "traces of His presence" were still evident. "Moreover, the Holy Spirit gave signs of His Presence at the beginning of Christ’s ministry, and after His ascension He gave still more; but since that time these signs have diminished, although there are still traces of His presence in a few who have had their souls purified by the Gospel and their actions regulated by its influence.


Novatian
The Christian theologian Novatian (A.D. 270) of Rome wrote a strong defense of the doctrine of the Trinity and died as a martyr during the second last wave of persecutions by the pagan Roman emperors. Novatian wrote about the key role of the Holy Spirit in supernaturally empowering the Church. "they were henceforth armed and strengthened by the same Spirit, having in themselves the gifts which this same Spirit distributes, and appropriates to the Church, the spouse of Christ, as her ornaments. This is He who places prophets in the Church, instructs teachers, directs tongues, gives powers and healings, does wonderful works, often discrimination of spirits, affords powers of government, suggests counsels, and orders and arranges whatever other gifts there are of charismata; and thus make the Lord’s Church everywhere, and in all, perfected and completed.


St. Augustine
Augustine (354ñ430), bishop of Hippo, was the greatest theologians of the early medieval Church and systematized much of the theology that governed the teaching of the Western Church for over a thousand years. Although in his early years Augustine believed that all miracles had ceased by the end of the lives of the apostles, his view was transformed by the compelling evidence of many well-attested miracles that occurred during a powerful revival that occurred throughout the churches of North Africa that were under his supervision. In the last section of his epic work The City of God, Augustine wrote about numerous miracles that he had personally witnessed and investigated, including remarkable miraculous healings involving breast cancer, paralysis, blindness, and even people who were resurrected from the dead. He wrote, "For even now miracles are wrought in the name of Christ.


Professor Peter Brown wrote in his book Augustine of Hippo that Augustine carefully collected the evidence of a variety of supernatural incidents and miracles "until they formed a single corpus, as compact and compelling as the miracles that had assisted the growth of the Early Church.


For example, Augustine reported on a person healed of blindness, "The miracle which was wrought at Milan when I was there, and by which a blind man was restored to sight, could come to the knowledge of many; for not only is the city a large one, but also the emperor was there at the time, and the occurrence was witnessed by an immense concourse of people.


The Venerable Bede
The great early English Church leader known as the Venerable Bede, the father of English history, quoted a letter sent by Gregory the Great, the bishop of Rome, in A.D. 601 to Augustine of Canterbury, a missionary sent from Rome to England. Gregory acknowledges the fact that miracles were occurring and that they were very effective in drawing the English natives to faith in Christ: "I know, most loving brother, that Almighty God, by means of your affection, shows great miracles in the nation which he has chosen. Wherefore it is necessary that you rejoice with fear, and tremble whilst you rejoice, on account of the same heavenly gift; viz., that you may rejoice because the souls of the English are by outward miracles drawn to inward grace.


Gregory also acknowledged in his letter that Augustine personally had "received the gift of working miracles.


Continued Supernatural Miracles
If space permitted, I could quote from a variety of Church authorities over the centuries that followed who witnessed the continued operation of supernatural miracles. These other sources include the famous Bernard of Clairvaux (A.D. 1190ñ1153) and Martin Luther (A.D. 1483ñ1546). In addition, there is overwhelming evidence of supernatural miracles that have occurred during the last few centuries during the Welsh Revival and remarkable healings and other miracles witnessed by many reliable sources in the tre mendous growth of the Church around the world in the last few decades. There are many scriptural promises of Jesus Christ regarding His continued supernatural empowering of the Church through His Holy Spirit. "For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that himself doeth: and he will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel" (John 5:20). Jesus promised that His faithful followers would be able to do "greater works" because He was empowering the Church with His Holy Spirit. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father" (John 14:12).


In addition, the Scripture declared, "For I am the Lord, I change not" (Malachi 3:6). Since God does not, and cannot change His nature, it is consistent and logical to believe that He would continue to manifest His supernatural power of miracles among His people from time to time to demonstrate His continued divine nature and mercy to humanity. Therefore, it is not surprising that our generation, which has witnessed the fulfillment of more remarkable prophecies than any other generation in history, should also witness extraordinary supernatural displays of God’s providence, including miracles of healing.

Notes
1. The Didache 11:10-11. Ante-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
2. Clement, Letter to the Corinthians 2:2. Ante-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
3. Shepherd of Hermas 43:9. Ante-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
4. Irenaeus, Refutation and Overthrow of Knowledge Falsely So Called, Ante-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
5. Irenaeus, Against Heresies 5:6:1, Ante-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
6. Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, chapter XXXIX. Ante-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
7. Origen, Against Celsus, Book I, Chap. XLVI, 2, 8. Post-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
8. Origen, Against Celsus, Book VII, Chapter. VIII. Post-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
9. Novatian, A Treatise of Novatian Concerning the Trinity, Chapter XXIX, section 251. Post-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
10. Augustine, The City of God, Book 22, Chapter 8. Post-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
11. Peter Brown, Augustine of Hippo (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1967) 415.
12. Augustine, The City of God, Book 22, Chapter 8. Post-Nicene Library 10 vols. (Grand Rapids: Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1987).
13. The Venerable Bede, Ecclesiastical History of England, Chapter 31, trans. J. A. Giles (London: George Bell & Sons, 1900) 57.
14. The Venerable Bede, Ecclesiastical History of England, Chapter 31, trans. J. A. Giles (London: George Bell & Sons, 1900) 57.




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775 posted on 09/08/2006 12:04:28 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: 1000 silverlings
We have no Kingdom now(Jn.18:36).

But when Christ returns and sets up his Millennium Kingdom, we will rule with Him (2Tim.2:12).

776 posted on 09/08/2006 12:06:52 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg
So Christ is not ruling now? Then why has He been seated at the righthand of God? (Hebrews 1:3)

Isn't this the problem with Dispensationalism? You have a little Christ with no kingdom as yet. This is contrary to scripture.

777 posted on 09/08/2006 12:14:20 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

We have no Kingdom now(Jn.18:36). No, Jesus never said that. He said" My kingdom is not of this world". Big difference.


778 posted on 09/08/2006 12:17:31 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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To: 1000 silverlings
We will be conformed to the image of Christ. We will be like Him. Maybe there will be a cake.

lol. If you want a cake, there will be a cake. 8~)

779 posted on 09/08/2006 12:26:27 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; topcat54

John 17:14


780 posted on 09/08/2006 12:27:34 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (why is it so difficult to understand?)
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