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To: Gamecock; xzins; blue-duncan
You know your mainline Presbyterian churches aren't doing too well these days either. I suppose I could paint all Presbyterians with the same broad brush that Johnson is painting the Evangelicals.

The fact is that there are good evangelical churches and bad evangelical churches. As with the Presbyterian and Episcopalian Churches, the ones that are getting all the attention are the bad ones.

Seems to me that Evangelical Church bashing has become as big a fad to some Christians as the Purpose Driven programs have become to others.

13 posted on 08/08/2006 6:50:12 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: P-Marlowe; Gamecock
I suppose I could paint all Presbyterians with the same broad brush that Johnson is painting the Evangelicals.

No need to speculate on that anymore. They're all on their way out. It won't be long before Presbyterian becomes a Synonym for Shaker.

14 posted on 08/08/2006 7:01:27 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: P-Marlowe; Gamecock; xzins; blue-duncan; Terabitten

Exactly PM, Johnson lumps all Evangelicals into the same offering basket. It's just not that simple.

Terabitten's remarks above about the AOG are dramatically different from my experience with that denomination in the last 10 years. But, the AOG varies dramtically from congregation to congregation.

All that said, Johnson loses some credibility points by trying to write a serious article and then posting that photoshopped picture of Jan Crouch.

How Reuter-ish of him...


15 posted on 08/08/2006 7:03:45 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: P-Marlowe; Gamecock; xzins; blue-duncan
The fact is that there are good evangelical churches and bad evangelical churches. As with the Presbyterian and Episcopalian Churches, the ones that are getting all the attention are the bad ones.

Couldn't agree more. Rewind to this past Christmas. As I recall, 99.999999999% of churches held service on Christmas day. Four churches (maybe 5) decided not to. So, which story got headlines, sermons and about 25 FR threads? Right. "Evangelicals are anti-Christmas!!"

24 posted on 08/08/2006 7:44:54 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: P-Marlowe

***You know your mainline Presbyterian churches aren't doing too well these days either.***

It is Presbyterian in name only. There are ample threads around here that are pointing out the problems with that church, and you will find my thoughts on those threads as well.

The bottom line here is are you serving a particular denomination and willing to defend it at all costs, or is your worldview based on Scripture? Can you stand back and say my church is doing x, y, or z wrong?


36 posted on 08/09/2006 2:50:54 AM PDT by Gamecock ("Jesus came to raise the dead. He did not come to teach the teachable." Robert Farrar Capon)
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