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Armageddon Again, and Again, and Again
American Vision ^ | 8/4/2006 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 08/04/2006 1:27:02 PM PDT by topcat54

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1 posted on 08/04/2006 1:27:03 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; HarleyD; suzyjaruki; nobdysfool; jkl1122; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
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2 posted on 08/04/2006 1:27:53 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: topcat54; RnMomof7

Hallelujah!!!!!! Somebody gets it right for a change. End Times Smend Times. There is nothing left to happen but the Second Coming of Christ. WE HAVE BEEN IN THE LAST DAYS SINCE THE FIRST ADVENT OF CHRIST. We only have to wait for the LAST DAY.

All Hell and it's fury came against the Lord Jesus Christ at the cross and He prevailed. Armageddon, Smarmageddon. It's over folks. HE WON!!!!

Listen folks, I read the last chapter in the BOOK and we win!!! Because of Christ the victory has been won!!!!! It's all over but the shouting and each time the Gospel brings another lost sheep home, all heaven rejoices. Let us be about our Master's business. Quick looking toward the middle east. LOOK DOWN folks because Christ has raised us to sit in Heavenly places!!!!


3 posted on 08/04/2006 3:27:17 PM PDT by sola gracia (Living in Victory because of the Cross)
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To: topcat54

Does a Partial Preterist (I don't know how far down the Pretrist path I really go) Amill get a spot on your list?

Just curious.

Soli Deo Gloria,


4 posted on 08/04/2006 3:51:27 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Lord_Calvinus
Does a Partial Preterist (I don't know how far down the Pretrist path I really go) Amill get a spot on your list?

Absolutely. Just make sure you stay "partial". :-)

5 posted on 08/04/2006 3:53:35 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: topcat54

Like I said, I don't know how much of Biblical end time Prophecy is fulfilled, but I am certain some of it is filled. It is just that most Partial Preterists I know tend to view everything fulfilled BUT the Perousia (sp). I'm not quite sure I'm ready to go that far.

But, I am definitely Reformed in my Eschatology, like all proper Presbyterian boys should be. ;^)

Soli Deo Gloria,


6 posted on 08/04/2006 3:58:22 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: sola gracia

Shall I add you to the Reformed Eschatology Ping List (REPL)?


7 posted on 08/04/2006 4:09:18 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: topcat54
As I was reading this I was reminded how God often brought nations up against His chosen nation to chastise them and bring them to a point of repentance. Few in the press seem interested in discussing the possibility that perhaps the rise in Muslim extremist is God's response to "Christian" nations, and especially today's "feel good" churches, that look with a tolerant view at issues such as abortion, homosexuality, stem cell research, pornography, on and on and on.

Maybe this isn't the end times as much as chastisement.
8 posted on 08/04/2006 5:12:34 PM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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Maybe this isn't the end times as much as chastisement.

Great point, Harley! Back when I was Premil, this was my great fear - that the "signs of the times" were being mis-read and in the throes of rapture fever, Christians would be woefully unprepared to be "stranded" in a post-chastisement future (having placed all their hopes in a Rapture that didn't occur).

9 posted on 08/04/2006 5:27:55 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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Hi Alex

this was my great fear - that the "signs of the times" were being mis-read and in the throes of rapture fever,

It never dawned on me how God could exact retribution on a nation until I understood the Reformed doctrine; even though I read it a hundred times in the Old Testament. I abandoned the Pre-Mil theories with the failures of Hal's LGPE. Topcat is making a Amil out of me although I'm still being perfected. :O)

10 posted on 08/04/2006 5:43:10 PM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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Topcat is making a Amil out of me although I'm still being perfected. :O)

Hey, now I'm jealous! If you'll hang around me, I'll make a postmil out of you!

11 posted on 08/04/2006 5:47:17 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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"Topcat is making a Amil out of me although I'm still being perfected. :O)"

Hey, now I'm jealous! If you'll hang around me, I'll make a postmil out of you!

Foul!! I'm postmil. What do I need to say to make it right? :-)

12 posted on 08/04/2006 5:53:23 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: topcat54

I think Mr. DeMar uses it as well, to write articles and books.


13 posted on 08/04/2006 6:16:05 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is now a crime to say what you think.)
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To: topcat54

Sure thing, thanks.


14 posted on 08/04/2006 7:14:07 PM PDT by sola gracia (Living in Victory because of the Cross)
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To: topcat54; Alex Murphy; HarleyD
LOL

At least you guys are hanging around the only two choices that make sense!

15 posted on 08/04/2006 7:32:36 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (God is my confidence.)
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To: HarleyD
Few in the press seem interested in discussing the possibility that perhaps the rise in Muslim extremist is God's response to "Christian" nations, and especially today's "feel good" churches, that look with a tolerant view at issues such as abortion, homosexuality, stem cell research, pornography, on and on and on.

You know, Belloc predicted all of this back in the 1930's. He said that Islam would rise again, and that the only bulwark against Islam was Catholic Europe. You can include Protestant Europe in that, too.

(Telling an English audience in the 1930's that Islam would rise again was about like telling an American audience today that they should beware of the resurgence of the Sioux and the Apaches.)

Well, Protestant Europe is on life-support, and Catholic Europe is very sick as well. And guess which "old friends" have moved in to fill the (spiritual and demographic) vacuum?

It's a chastisement, true, but (as usual) God doesn't have to stray far from nature and logic to accomplish his purposes. Our own foolishness and wickedness sets up our chastisement.

No, the secular press will never figure this out. They have the insight and discernment of a doorknob.

16 posted on 08/04/2006 7:54:36 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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Hey Topcat,

Add me to your Reformed Eschatology too, why don'cha?

Thanks ~~!

By the way, have you read David Chilton's "Days of Vengence"? It's a pretty great commentary on the Book of Revelation! (it can be downloaded in Adobe Reader format FREE at www.PreteristArchive.com.) It's scholarly; but readable, and well worth the effort.

Chilton's "Paradise Restored" (also available for FREE download at www.freebooks.com ) contains a fairly easy to understand explaination of what Post-Millenialism is; but also includes one of the best refutations of pessimist Pre-Trib,Pre-Mill Dispensationalism that I've ever read, aside from Gary DeMar's book, "Last Days Madness".

Book books are excellent.


17 posted on 08/04/2006 11:03:37 PM PDT by Biblical Calvinist (Soli Deo Gloria !)
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Welcome. I was getting lonely
18 posted on 08/04/2006 11:59:15 PM PDT by Gamecock ("Jesus came to raise the dead. He did not come to teach the teachable." Robert Farrar Capon)
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It is good to see you are still watching Israel, TC. What happens there will tilt the argument one way or the other. Right now, I don’t think that the return of Christ is imminent because the big money is on Israel to win. When people start betting on Israel to place...?

Sorry I don’t have any more scripture right now, but I think that the odds will change, against Israel. I do not think she will turn to Christ until her back is against the wall.

Seven


19 posted on 08/05/2006 12:02:56 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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Foul!! I'm postmil. What do I need to say to make it right? ~~ topcat54

"Hi. I'm Topcat, and I'm an Amillennial."

20 posted on 08/05/2006 4:48:01 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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