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To: topcat54

There is a new covenant, and it means that the Jews are no longer God's Chosen People. Christians are.

That should not be forgotten. Jews will all perish unless they accept Christ.

Biblical Sources available here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1674869/posts?page=162#162


5 posted on 07/31/2006 2:56:47 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind; topcat54
"There is a new covenant, and it means that the Jews are no longer God's Chosen People."

Nope friend. Sorry. Their calling is irrevocable.

"As regards the gospel, they are enemies of God for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable."
8 posted on 07/31/2006 3:34:08 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: ConservativeMind
the Jews are no longer God's Chosen People

Ok I've got to ask a question that is more rhetorical and a question I've been mauling over in my brain but of which I haven't researched yet. When the scripture refers to the Jews as God's Chosen people is it referring to the Jews as a Nation but not a blood line or is it referring to the Jews as a Nation and blood line. My gut feeling is it is referring to the Nation as a whole and not the Jews individually unless there is a play on words like Paul telling us a real Jew is someone who heart is circumcised.

Another question that has come up in my mind of which I haven't researched is was the Old Covenant specifically given to the Nation of Israel or was it given to them to give to the rest of the world, or are the references on the Old Covenant referring to a prior event that precedes the giving of the Law through Moses.

And finally are all references to the Old Covenant referring to the same thing.

13 posted on 07/31/2006 6:20:49 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: ConservativeMind

"There is a new covenant, and it means that the Jews are no longer God's Chosen People. Christians are."

And where do you find that in scripture" In Rom. 11:25-27, Paul says that after the "age of the Gentiles" (the church age) God will deal with Israel again,

"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes."


14 posted on 07/31/2006 7:31:57 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: ConservativeMind
"There is a new covenant, and it means that the Jews are no longer God's Chosen People. Christians are"

Now, there's part of the problem. That is not true and the Bible is very clear on that.

38 posted on 08/01/2006 1:11:52 AM PDT by DaGman
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To: ConservativeMind

And that new covenant was given first to the Jews.


110 posted on 08/03/2006 4:27:44 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is now a crime to say what you think.)
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