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A confessional out of Dilbert?
Curt Jester ^ | July 30, 2006

Posted on 07/31/2006 10:31:54 AM PDT by NYer

The dread, damp palms and anxiety may still be there, but Catholic confession has moved out of the dark, creaky booth where a priest listened to penitents and then meted out penalties to every last sinner to show up.

The confessional box has largely given way to a lighted room where priest and penitent can gaze into each other’s eyes and have a private conversation about lapses in holy living. That’s especially true in Arizona, where Catholic churches tend to be newer.

Or sinners can still anonymously recount their wrongs kneeling behind a screen on a table in a well-lighted room, uttering the traditional words, “Bless me, Father, for I have sinned” and noting the date of the last confession. Largely gone is the dark confessional booth, tagged the “sin box,” with a kneeler and demarcating shuttered divider between the two parties.

Also gone are the long lines of penitents who humbly spill out their venial and mortal offenses to God through a priest who is forbidden from repeating them to anyone.

Personally I prefer the older confessionals to "reconciliation rooms" and especially the type displayed in the picture. I have never seen one setup like that, but it seems rather problematic to me. For one I guess you would have to approach this confessional cubicle from a specific angle to retain the canonical right of the individual penitent to remain anonymous. The other problem I would see is that a traditional confessional or a dedicated room would at least act as a baffle to help to prevent people from overhearing your confession. An open confessional would require awaiting penetents to stand much further away to avoid this problem.

Now of course compared to what happens during this amazing sacrament the furniture involved in facilitating it is of no consequence. Though I think we need a visual indicator that the sacrament of confession isn't something mundane, but something quite exceptional. What could be more exceptional than forgiveness of sins when we truly repent?

I have also always wondered how someone who is forced to make an appointment for confession retains there canonical rights to anonymity? Would you have to give a false name and then say you will meet the priest in the confessional at a certain time? Would you have to confess to giving a false name?

On the light side the confessional pictured looks like it would make for a really challenging game of ping pong.


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1 posted on 07/31/2006 10:31:55 AM PDT by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Frankly .... this is my idea of a good confessional.


2 posted on 07/31/2006 10:33:51 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

top picture reminds me think of this:

drunk staggers into the church, goes into the confessional box, sits down but says nothing. The priest coughs a few times to get his attention but the drunk just sits there.

Finally, the Priest pounds three times on the wall. The drunk mumbles, “No use knockin' - there's no paper on this side either.”


3 posted on 07/31/2006 10:44:27 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat (thank you - tip your acolyte)
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To: Nihil Obstat

Lol ...


4 posted on 07/31/2006 10:48:40 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

LOL!

I understand the writer's concern about a penitent's having no opportunity to be anonymous - although if you're active in your parish, the priest may well recognize your voice, even if he can't see you.

On the other hand, it doesn't bother me to tell my sins to Father face-to-face. It's not like he was assuming I was perfect before that! Even if I got up in front of the congregation and announced, "I yelled at my kids last week, nagged my husband about his overspending, and last Thursday, I had too much wine and gave myself a headache," the most likely response would be, "What, you think you're the Lone Ranger or something?"


5 posted on 07/31/2006 10:50:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: everyone

If they would just go to the source and confess to God himself you can eliminate all of this nonsence.


6 posted on 07/31/2006 10:51:36 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: NYer

Well, it only took 20 minutes.


7 posted on 07/31/2006 10:58:12 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: NYer
At St. Edward's beautiful Church on Palm Beach (Where the Kennedy's used to go to Mass) there is a handicapped priest who hears Confessions face-to-face, standing, in the Sacristy.

I have been to Confession there several times. The first time was quite startling. However, this Priest is very kind and humble and as he gives absolution he places his hands on the Penitent's head.

Confessing that way is very powerful, humbling, and, for me, only increased the realisation I was Confessing to Jesus Himself through the Priesthood He established

8 posted on 07/31/2006 10:59:49 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: NYer

Dilbertian[tm] confessional would require a pointy-haired priest in it, or maybe Alice administering penance by bonking the sinners' heads against the table.


9 posted on 07/31/2006 11:00:31 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Married with Children

Uh-oh. You've done it now. Your post will cause this thread to top 500 posts.


10 posted on 07/31/2006 11:01:11 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: Married with Children

http://www.scripturecatholic.com/confession.html


11 posted on 07/31/2006 11:01:17 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: Married with Children
Was Jesus lying when He said "Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained" (John 20:23). Besides, before the priest grants absolution, the confessor must say the Act of Contrition sincerely (Oh my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended thee, and I detest all of my sins....), or the absolution is not effective.
12 posted on 07/31/2006 11:02:16 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: NYer
Also gone are the long lines of penitents who humbly spill out their venial and mortal offenses to God through a priest who is forbidden from repeating them to anyone.

Not in my parish they aren't. It's a 20 to 45 minute wait for Confession on Saturdays.

Maybe we just sin a lot...

13 posted on 07/31/2006 11:03:06 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: NYer
I'm 6'5" so any barrier has to be extremely high.

Yet, I have found the face-to-face confession experience to be truly tremendous, and soul-cleansing, far-beyond anything I experienced in the mor convention booths I grew up using.

14 posted on 07/31/2006 11:05:13 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: Pyro7480

Huh?


15 posted on 07/31/2006 11:12:29 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: Military family member

Maybe if we go face-to-face some of the sins we are too embarassed about will be extinguished. I mean, it is, relatively, easy to ignore God because He is not physically standing before us, but it is rather difficult to hide our shame when we Confess to the Priest face-to-face


16 posted on 07/31/2006 11:15:44 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: Married with Children

How did I confuse you?


17 posted on 07/31/2006 11:18:31 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: bornacatholic
On the other hand, some people may feel more compelled to hide their deeper sins (the so-called "pet sins") that embarrass them if they confess face-to-face. I think the screen needs to always be an option, because it is Christ we confess to through the priest, not the priest himself.
18 posted on 07/31/2006 11:22:26 AM PDT by GCC Catholic
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To: Pyro7480
Well, it only took 20 minutes.

It's a slow news day.

19 posted on 07/31/2006 11:23:26 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; NYer
On the other hand, it doesn't bother me to tell my sins to Father face-to-face.

I take it from your comment that you never left the confessional with a black eye, then? I have come dangerously close! Guess the old reflexes still are in working order and I ducked when I should! Irish priests can get pretty riled up...

20 posted on 07/31/2006 11:23:41 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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