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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; George W. Bush; A.J.Armitage; Alex Murphy; P-Marlowe; xzins

"At a meeting my Arminian pastor once threw out the term seeker sensitive. I asked him to show me where in Scripture the pagan was called to worship God."

Once again my old Calvinist friends, sometimes "tongues" are the familiar cliches or jargon we use during the sermon or the strange words of familiar hymns that to the unlearned or unbeliever seem like nonsense. Paul says we are to be "seeker sensitive" so they can understand and praise God. After all, the unlearned and the unbeliever are there at the same summons (but for different reasons)of the Holy Spirit as the staunchest Calvinist, except the Calvinist has the responsibility to look after the weaker vessel.

1Cr 14:23, "If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in [those that are] unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or [one] unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on [his] face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth. How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying."

Even at the mega-church "seeker sensitive" services with their loud, rhythmic praise music, and clapping hands and power point hymns, amazingly, God's mercy reaches the lost and some are saved by grace, just like in the staid stodgy scholastic churches we are comfortable in, only at a greater rate and less convenience for the "mature" believers since at those noisey churches, the "mature" ones have to come to other meetings for study. If only we could hand out as part of the Sunday bulletins, a glossary of words or translation of phrases maybe that would help, of course that would lengthen the service and be distracting what with all the turning of pages every time a strange word or phrase pops up.


47 posted on 07/21/2006 12:30:39 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

***Paul says we are to be "seeker sensitive" so they can understand and praise God.***

Not to the point where the "seeker" doesn't even know that the point is that they are sinners and need a Savior.


50 posted on 07/21/2006 1:01:03 PM PDT by Gamecock ("God's sheep are brought home by the Holy Spirit, and there won't be one of them lost." L R Shelton)
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To: blue-duncan
"If only we could hand out as part of the Sunday bulletins, a glossary of words or translation of phrases maybe that would help, of course that would lengthen the service and be distracting what with all the turning of pages every time a strange word or phrase pops up."
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Amen!

I became very popular at our Sunday school class when I said "to heck with it" and started asking "dumb" questions such as what's the difference between an Apostle and Disciple? A great many are drawn to the "mega-churches" because its okay to not know something.
52 posted on 07/21/2006 1:06:17 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: blue-duncan; Buggman; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; jude24; Corin Stormhands; ...

BD, you have correctly divided scripture where others have missed something.

There is lots of things right with setting aside a service that focuses on non-Christians.

There are lots of hours left in a week (and on Sunday) to have a service focused on Christians.


62 posted on 07/22/2006 6:49:42 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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