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To: starfish923
Mr. Johnson is over-egging the story for entertainment's sake as you say.

Mind you a recent publication of hymns for the Anglican church has cut all references to military imagery! No more Onward Christian Soldier! (Onward Christian Pilgrims' I seem to remember. Sang the old words anyway and others joined in!
15 posted on 07/07/2006 9:17:12 AM PDT by vimto
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To: vimto
Mr. Johnson is over-egging the story for entertainment's sake as you say.
Mind you a recent publication of hymns for the Anglican church has cut all references to military imagery! No more Onward Christian Soldier! (Onward Christian Pilgrims' I seem to remember. Sang the old words anyway and others joined in!

Please see my post #17 to sionnsar.

The Catholic Church is making minor revisions in the Mass liturgy. They are RETURNING to previous, older words, cutting out the newer, P.C. versions. Our pastor gave us a few examples to appear in the next five years but I can't remember them.

My point is that the P.C. stuff is dissolving a bit returning to original Latin and Greek t translations. Mind you, it's not earth-shattering, but they are changes RETURNING to the older, not reaching farther into the bizarre P.C.ism of today's world.

I think (and I might be wrong.) that the Church of England will follow the trend set by the Catholic Church. Their 1978-9 disaster of allowing women priests won't be taken back, of course, but the prayers and Mass protocal MIGHT revert. I think that would be a good thing. I even liked the Latin Mass in the Roman Catholic Church.

When I was in Rome last month I went to St. Peter's all by myself and heard Mass a couple of times. The left apse of St. Peter's is St. John's altar and Mass is said with the priest facing away from the people.

When I traveled to Austria and Germany, some of the Masses (I was ONLY in the old basicilas and churches.) were said the same way, with priest's back to the people. In one, right near Marienplatz in Munich (The Frauenkirsche was unreachable because of a 10K run being put on, the morning RIGHT AFTER Germany beat Argentina in the World Cup last month.), not only was the priest's back to the people, those who took communion came up to the rail and either knelt or stood for communion. It was deja vu all over again. :o) I expected all the old ways to be changed. It was kinda nice to see some old ways still around. But then, I'm an old fogey-ess.

18 posted on 07/08/2006 8:25:23 AM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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