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So let me get this straight (so to speak), the bishop-monk (Society of Saint John the Evangelist, "Cowley Fathers") M. Thomas Shaw is saying that anyone who disagrees with him "demonstrate[s] either incredible ignorance or a willful duplicity" ?

Does this apply also to the considerable numbers of people in his own rapidly dwindling denomination who disagree with him?

And isn't Shaw in "apostolic succession" to Archbishop Thomas Cranmer who, in violation of his consecration oaths, declared Henry VIII's marriage annuled when he was having trouble with the Catholic Church's feeling "the need to preserve marriage as they say it has always existed" with regard to Catherine of Aragon?

(Oh, and if I'm not mistaken there was a Catholic priest of the Archdiocese of Boston who also preached at that "worship service before Boston's gay pride parade". What's with that?)

1 posted on 06/27/2006 6:10:08 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: TaxachusettsMan
, the bishop-monk (Society of Saint John the Evangelist, "Cowley Fathers") M. Thomas Shaw is saying that anyone who disagrees with him "demonstrate[s] either incredible ignorance or a willful duplicity" ?

30-some years ago the US version of the Cowley Dads was widely suspected of being a tad light in the loafers, uh, I mean sanctuary slippers.

As to the rest:

Why do the nations so furiously rage together, and why do the people imagine a vain thing?
Answer: It's what they do.
2 posted on 06/27/2006 6:20:27 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (If the gates of Hell prevail against it, it probably never was a church anyway.)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I read this article and couldn't help but wonder where the Orthodox are, and the Baptists are, and the Mormons are etc, etc.

Why is the Catholic Church standing alone on this one?


3 posted on 06/27/2006 6:51:01 AM PDT by Cheverus
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To: TaxachusettsMan
At first I thought this was some sort of satire.

Then I realized it's just a bunch of non-Christians barking wildly about what Christians believe.

4 posted on 06/27/2006 7:06:54 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
The Episcopal Church is critical of the Catholic position on homosexual "marriage"? The Episcopal Church which is currently on life support due to its ordination of homosexuals and lesbians? The Episcopal Church which is in complete chaos over the issue of women bishops? The Episcopal Church which has split asunder in all but name?

That Episcopal Church?

Oh, OK.

I guess it's perfectly reasonable to follow such an impressive example. Who in their right mind wouldn't want to go down the same road?

Not.

10 posted on 06/27/2006 8:20:31 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: TaxachusettsMan
...a multifaith coalition of clergy who support same-sex marriage plan to accuse Cardinal Sean P. O'Malley and other Catholic leaders of ``religious discrimination" today.

But by doing this, aren't they guilty of religious discrimination themselves?

13 posted on 06/27/2006 9:58:19 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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16 posted on 06/27/2006 11:49:56 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† |Iran Azadi| SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - N0t Y0urs | NYT: The Jihadis' Journal)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
At a worship service before Boston's gay pride parade earlier this month, Bishop M. Thomas Shaw, leader of the Episcopal Diocese of Massachusetts, implicitly criticized the Catholic bishops, saying, ``Religious leaders that are local to our community . . . have been quite vocal about the need to preserve marriage as they say it has always existed. When they say this, they demonstrate either incredible ignorance or a willful duplicity."

Er, does this mean that homosexual marriage has always been the norm throughout history until one or two years ago when the big, bad, insensitive, "religious right" brought up the idea of outlawing it for the first time in history? I'm asking in part because the link doesn't take me to the article and I can't read what the guy really said next.

Isn't it interesting that to the Left a dangerous radical isn't someone who starts adovating bizarre, never-before-heard-of ideas, but someone who maintains his original beliefs and doesn't sufficiently keep up with the Hegelian development of history (you know, it's like a budding rose unfolding!).

21 posted on 06/27/2006 3:04:17 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Hinneh, mah tov umah na`im shevet 'achim gam yachad!)
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May these wayward priests and ministers find their way back to Christ.

The road is broad, but the gate is narrow.


23 posted on 06/27/2006 7:23:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
. . .The board of the Religious Coalition for the Freedom to Marry includes clergy from several liberal Christian and Jewish denominations and other faiths, including paganism.

No, they're all practicing pagans: "...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9]

26 posted on 06/27/2006 7:41:43 PM PDT by Caleb1411 ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
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"America, it is said, is suffering from intolerance. It is not. It is suffering from tolerance of right and wrong, truth and error, virtue and evil, Christ and chaos. Our country is not nearly so much overrun with the bigoted as it is overrun with the broadminded."
~Bishop Fulton Sheen, "A Plea for Intolerance", 1931
27 posted on 06/27/2006 8:05:22 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: TaxachusettsMan
Just like old times!

Er... maybe not.

30 posted on 06/27/2006 10:39:07 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

Episcopal Church and United Methodists Gang Up on Catholics



SPLITTERS!!!!!


38 posted on 06/28/2006 10:17:23 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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