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Pope Against Pop Music In Mass
Adnkronos International ^ | 06262006 | AKI

Posted on 06/26/2006 11:48:53 AM PDT by FJ290

Vatican City, 26 June (AKI) - Pope Benedict XVI has called for traditional sacred music to be played during mass, condemning the ongoing custom of contemporary music at religious celebrations. "Updating sacred music is possible, but this cannot happen unless it follows the tradition of Gregorian chants or sacred polyphony," the pontiff said on Sunday on the sidelines of a concert in the Sistine Chapel. A skilled pianist with a predilection for Bach and Mozart, Benedict XVI spoke against a custom reportedly appreciated by his more informal predecessor John Paul II, who worked very hard throughout his papacy to make the Church more appealing to the younger generations.

In an interview published in Turin-daily La Stampa on Monday, the former Archbishop of Ravenna, veteran Cardinal Ersilio Tonini also condemned the practice saying that "Benedict XVI is right, mass is a meeting with God and to meet God sacred music is better than the turmoil of electric guitars, hand clapping and the husstle and bustle of disorderly sounds."

Tonini said that 40 years ago after the Second Vatican Council "making mass more popular and inviting could be understood." However, the cardinal added, "we exaggerated and now I believe it is legitimate to consider as over this season of breaks with tradition."


TOPICS: Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; christianmusic; religion
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To: Alkhin
Yes indeed. Excellent source.

This also: Oremus Hymnal

161 posted on 06/26/2006 1:08:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Ya put yer right arm in,
Ya put yer right arm out,
Ya put yer right arm in,
And you shake it all about,
Ya do the 'Hokey-Pokey'
And ya turn yerself around,
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT!!!


162 posted on 06/26/2006 1:08:14 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

OBTW, the group of 'ladies' in that picture really is a howlingly mind-bending absurdity.


163 posted on 06/26/2006 1:10:34 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Xenalyte
I can't help but notice that we are not admonished to praise Him with repetitive two-chord musical pap.

True. Neither are we admonished to praise Him only with old music; quite the opposite:

O sing unto the LORD a new song: sing unto the LORD, all the earth. - Psalm 96:1

164 posted on 06/26/2006 1:10:45 PM PDT by xjcsa (Fight global climate stagnation!)
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To: Fighting Irish

I'm guessing Methodist?


165 posted on 06/26/2006 1:11:24 PM PDT by dangus
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To: AnAmericanMother
But the REAL old-time music - the Sacred Harp, Southern Harmony, Kentucky Harmony, etc. - is perfectly appropriate for a Catholic Mass. It's traditionally sung a cappella, the texts are usually scripture or a paraphrase, and the music is based on classical fugue models. It had its origins in the New England Singing School composers - Billings, Justin Morgan, etc. - and that old style was sort of preserved in amber in the rural South.

AAM, the more I troll these threads the more in awe I become of your musical knowledge. :)

Now, of course, I'm going to have to look up these styles you mention!

166 posted on 06/26/2006 1:12:43 PM PDT by Claud
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To: ArrogantBustard

They're all in stretch pants. I bet some of them are stirrup.


167 posted on 06/26/2006 1:13:27 PM PDT by Xenalyte (The wages of sin are death, but after taxes are taken out it's just sort of a tired feeling.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

You mean the "Leader of Song." Careful, I used to do that, LOL!


168 posted on 06/26/2006 1:15:24 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = The Conservative Diva)
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To: Argus

Music after 1900; lyrics after 1000. :^D


169 posted on 06/26/2006 1:16:03 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Right Wing Assault
I would say we should be looking for some more comments or 'suggestions' on kneeling for those we are capable.

I was raised in a high-church Episcopal tradition, where it seemed we spent half the service on our knees. Now that I am older and wiser, I know that the discomfort of spending fifteen minutes kneeling, with the relief of standing to take communion, followed by the warm glow from a healthy slug of sweet red Port, is an allegory for how our suffering in this world will be replaced by joy in God's presence.

I still miss the 1928 Prayer Book liturgy and the old Episcopal hymnal, even though we have returned to Mother Rome. I wish there were an Anglican Use parish in our diocese.

-ccm

170 posted on 06/26/2006 1:16:16 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

I'm not real fond of the one-armed salute that is so prevalent in worship these days. I find it mildly alarming, to tell you the truth.

Your photo is a good example.


171 posted on 06/26/2006 1:16:37 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

It is a disgrace.


172 posted on 06/26/2006 1:17:47 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = The Conservative Diva)
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To: dangus
Music after 1900; lyrics after 1000

No. Your lyrical cut-off is too early. I propose precisely 07MAR1274.

173 posted on 06/26/2006 1:18:10 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: FJ290

Really strange note: It seems all the charismatic Catholic groups in the DC area are incorporating Latin Hymns and Eucharistic adoration...


174 posted on 06/26/2006 1:18:50 PM PDT by dangus
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To: MineralMan

They're raising their hands, because they're "Sure".


175 posted on 06/26/2006 1:19:05 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dfwgator

hahaha!

Think we are the only ones getting this???


176 posted on 06/26/2006 1:20:08 PM PDT by fhlh (Polls are for Strippers.)
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To: Xenalyte
It's entirely possible, but one would have to examine their feet to be sure.

I'm certainly not one to do that.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it ...

177 posted on 06/26/2006 1:20:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MineralMan
MineralMan wrote:
I'm not real fond of the one-armed salute that is so prevalent in worship these days. I find it mildly alarming, to tell you the truth.

Supposedly, that is some sort of "empowerment" gesture of defiance which feminists and alternative lifestyleoids have picked up along the way. Although the most familiar use of that we all remember with some horror (Germany: 1933-1945), it derives from older occult groups like the Vril Society and the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. History is stranger than fiction... sometimes.

178 posted on 06/26/2006 1:21:47 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: ArrogantBustard

What if the Hokey-Pokey really is what it's all about?


179 posted on 06/26/2006 1:22:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dangus
Really strange note: It seems all the charismatic Catholic groups in the DC area are incorporating Latin Hymns and Eucharistic adoration...

Funny things start to happen when you call on the Holy Spirit. :)

180 posted on 06/26/2006 1:23:16 PM PDT by Claud
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