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To: steadfastconservative

You highlight attributes of the longed for "reform of the reform" that are already part of the High form of Tridentine Mass, and yet you seem to be condemning the Tridentine Mass as something that can never be returned to. The fact is that the Tridentine mass is closer to what Vatican II envisioned than the current "reform of the reform" envisions. None of the bishops who signed up for Vatican II's changes envisioned the Novus Ordo. All envisioned an updated Tridentine Mass. It's arguable that based on the writings of the Holy Father that he sees a gradual return to the Tridentine mass as the long goal of the "reform of the reform." You should try the Tridentine mass as the Novus Ordo is toxic in its current implementation in most parishes in the United States.


27 posted on 07/06/2006 12:29:21 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: WriteOn

Yes, Vatican II sought only to revise the Tridentine Mass and what the Council Fathers envisioned was something closer to the Tridentine Mass than what we have now. However, they did believe that the older form of the rite needed to be reformed, especially to enable the faithful to participate more fully in the Mass. (Remember, the rubrics of the Missal of Pius V contain NO role whatsoever for the laity.) Therefore, a "reform of the reform" could not mean just returning to the 1962 Missal since that would be a de facto rejection of the Council's call to reform the liturgy. This pope does not view the "reform of the reform" as ultimately returning to the Tridentine Mass.

I attended an indult Tridentine Mass for three years but I stopped since I after all that time I still had not learned the prayers (I don't know Latin) and could follow the Mass only with a missal and since I got tired of attending Mass as a silent spectator.


28 posted on 07/07/2006 5:10:33 AM PDT by steadfastconservative
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