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To: ArrogantBustard

So it's better to die, and never be able to express your beliefs, even in secret and maybe bring others to your way of thinking, than it is to bow to some stupid city, say praise allah, and continue on believing as you did? I do not understand martyrdom. God couldn't possibly want someone to die, just because they wouldn't say something, would He?


17 posted on 06/22/2006 9:31:10 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
Yes. Death, after all, is not the end.

To "bow to some stupid city, say praise allah, " is to do something unspeakably evil, and by my actions encourage others to do so. God forbid that I should do such a thing! The Truth is more important than my remaining in this world. Any act of martyrdom (witness) is a testament to that fact.

22 posted on 06/22/2006 9:37:44 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: stuartcr
So it's better to die, and never be able to express your beliefs, even in secret and maybe bring others to your way of thinking, than it is to bow to some stupid city, say praise allah, and continue on believing as you did? I do not understand martyrdom. God couldn't possibly want someone to die, just because they wouldn't say something, would He?

Why didn't we just surrender to the Nazis and promote democracy in secret when we wasted all those lives? If God doesn't want us to die for our faith, why should my government ask me to die for my nation?

42 posted on 06/22/2006 11:08:07 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: stuartcr

"So it's better to die, and never be able to express your beliefs, even in secret and maybe bring others to your way of thinking, than it is to bow to some stupid city, say praise allah, and continue on believing as you did?"

What's the point of faith, if you are unwilling to embrace it fully? I will die before I ever, even in appearance only, worship the false god allah the the man Muhammed. God required His only Son to lay down His life, there is a chance He will require the same of others.


59 posted on 06/22/2006 11:44:34 AM PDT by mockingbyrd
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