[Rutles4Ever]

So it's better to die, and never be able to express your beliefs, even in secret and maybe bring others to your way of thinking, than it is to bow to some stupid city, say praise allah, and continue on believing as you did? I do not understand martyrdom. God couldn't possibly want someone to die, just because they wouldn't say something, would He?

Why didn't we just surrender to the Nazis and promote democracy in secret when we wasted all those lives? If God doesn't want us to die for our faith, why should my government ask me to die for my nation?

[stuartcr]

War and invasion, results in physical harm....not the same as dying for a belief.