To: Sopater
"I never made a claim of "faith alone"
What is the difference between saying "faith alone" or "salvation does not come through the church, but through faith in Jesus Christ"?
If one rejects the Sacraments, then one has to rely only on faith.
"Jesus was being figurative, speaking in spiritual terms not physical, literal terms. He explains this to the disciples."
No, He is not speaking figuratively, because He then asks His apostles in v67 "Will you also go away?"
There is the "flesh" of our Lord's body and blood and then the "flesh" referring to human nature.
To: dollars_for_dogma
What is the difference between saying "faith alone" or "salvation does not come through the church, but through faith in Jesus Christ"?
If one rejects the Sacraments, then one has to rely only on faith.
Friend, you're not even making sense.
He is not speaking figuratively, because He then asks His apostles in v67 "Will you also go away?"
You've gotta stop pulling such small pieces of scripture out to try and make your point. Jesus had stopped talking about eating the bread back in v58.
"But there are some of you who do not believe " For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him. And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father." As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore. So Jesus said to the twelve, "You do not want to go away also, do you?" Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life." -John 6:64-68 (NASB)
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06/22/2006 6:58:30 PM PDT by
Sopater
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