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To: dollars_for_dogma
What is the difference between saying "faith alone" or "salvation does not come through the church, but through faith in Jesus Christ"?

If one rejects the Sacraments, then one has to rely only on faith.


Friend, you're not even making sense.

He is not speaking figuratively, because He then asks His apostles in v67 "Will you also go away?"

You've gotta stop pulling such small pieces of scripture out to try and make your point. Jesus had stopped talking about eating the bread back in v58.

"But there are some of you who do not believe " For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him. And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father." As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore. So Jesus said to the twelve, "You do not want to go away also, do you?" Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life." -John 6:64-68 (NASB)
102 posted on 06/22/2006 6:58:30 PM PDT by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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To: Sopater
It would make sense to you if you believed that the Sacraments of Baptism, Reconciliation (confession of sins), Eucharist (Holy Communion), Confirmation, etc. given to us by our Lord through his Catholic Church are necessary for the salvation of one's soul.

If you don't believe this, then all one has to rely on for salvation of one's soul is faith.
104 posted on 06/22/2006 7:13:06 PM PDT by dollars_for_dogma
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To: Sopater
"You've gotta stop pulling such small pieces of scripture out to try and make your point. Jesus had stopped talking about eating the bread back in v58."

It's not "the bread." It's "this bread." Bread that came down from Heaven (Jesus); the bread of life (Jesus); our Lord's body to eat and his blood to drink.

If you read the posts I used all of John 6:26-71 in supporting the Catholic belief that we need the Lord's body and blood for salvation of our soul's.
105 posted on 06/22/2006 7:19:56 PM PDT by dollars_for_dogma
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