[AnAmericanMother]

I don't know how this man can look in the mirror. He's a total Narcissist who seems to care little about God or the chaos that he has caused in the Episcopalian church.

You are more correct than you know.

I am slightly acquainted with an ECUSA member from NH who sat with VGR on a couple of committees. Her assessment: "It's all about Gene."

Narcissism seems to figure very largely in the lives of most homosexuals I have known. It's certainly true with him.

[lightman]

I don't know how this man can look in the mirror. He's a total Narcissist who seems to care little about God or the chaos that he has caused in the Episcopalian church.

Some of it might also be the virulent independence of the American character and an unhealthy obsession with individual rights.

At roughly the same time that VGR was elected in NH an uncloseted homo was proposed for one of the major bishoprics in England, but when he saw the pending fallout in the C of E he rightly "stood down", in his words "for the sake of the Church."

Much as I dislike the Rick Warren fad and the empire spawned thereby, he is absolutely right with his starting premise It's not about YOU."