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Where heresy and dissent abound [Minnesota]
SperoForum.com ^ | 05-31-06 | Elizabeth Schwab

Posted on 05/31/2006 1:15:20 PM PDT by Salvation

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21 posted on 05/31/2006 6:17:23 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic)
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To: Salvation

mtegeder@stedwardschurch.org


22 posted on 05/31/2006 7:06:29 PM PDT by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: Salvation

Oh where oh where is a holy hand grenade when you need one?


23 posted on 05/31/2006 7:33:18 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Salvation; american colleen; Lady In Blue; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Could be happening near you too!

It is happening here in NYS. There are several dioceses, mine included, that span the gap of normative worship.

TREE OF LIFE
A sculptural fountain and an Offering Table for the Meditation Place.

The Meditation Place is designed to embrace many faiths, traditions and beliefs. The Tree of Life sculpture is a focal point in the design as an important symbol in almost every religion. In creating the sculpture I introduced additional connections. Apropos of a medical institution, the trees trunk transforms into a double helix of DNA. At the base of the helix is a fig leaf and a seed pod, the traditional symbol of Buddha. Along the spiraling strands are streams of life forms - leaves, sticks, flowers, snails, fish, and birds (over a hundred different images) all surging upward. The tree grows from a fountain that spills into a pool cut into a granite cube. The running water produces The Meditation Places ambient sound track.

Design team:
Fr. James Notebaart - liturgical designer;
Alexander Tylevich - sculptor;
Dietrich Spahn - glass designer;
Rafferty, Rafferty, Tollefson Architects (RRT)

24 posted on 05/31/2006 7:41:34 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: Nihil Obstat

That would be justice for Archbishop Flynn. I don't know about Father Altier.


25 posted on 05/31/2006 7:42:49 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

Why don't they just have simple Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament? Go figure!


26 posted on 05/31/2006 7:57:14 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

Dear NYer -

Just to tie it all together:




Text of priests’ letter
to Bishop Wilton Gregory

We, the undersigned, are priests serving in the Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis. We write to you as the President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops because we wish to join our voices with the voices of priests of other dioceses in the United States, requesting that you use your position to achieve an open discussion of the issue of mandatory/optional celibacy for diocesan priests among the bishops of our nation.

It is our position that the current and prospective shortage of priests constitutes a grave threat to the Church in our country because, whereas our Catholic tradition and Vatican Council II teach that the liturgy is the summit and fount of the life of the Church, our Catholic faithful are more and more being denied their baptismal right to full access to the sacramental life of the Church, especially Sunday Eucharist.

We believe that the Holy Spirit does not fail to call to the priesthood sufficient numbers of the faithful from our parishes. However, mandatory celibacy is a major obstacle to devout and otherwise qualified men responding to this call. We believe changing the discipline of calling only celibate males to the priesthood of the Roman Rite to include married men as candidates would provide a priesthood of married as well as celibate men who would be available to provide for the leadership and cultic needs of our parishes.

Therefore, we are requesting our episcopal leaders to explore the issue of mandatory/optional celibacy for diocesan priests as soon as possible, and we are writing to enlist your support to that end.

Sincerely in the Spirit of Jesus,

Stephen Adrian, Richard Moudry, Edward Flahavan, Timothy Power, Richard Wolter, Robert Fitzpatrick, John Hofstede, Michael Joncas, Robert Johnson, Timothy Wozniak, George Wertin, Patrick Malone, Jerome Keiser, Patrick Kennedy, William Kenney, Roger Pierre, Eugene Pouliot, Robert White, Roger Carroll, Thomas Conroy, Bryan O’Rourke, Martin Warren, Thomas Garvey, Wally Boehme, James Notebaart, Donald Piche, James Schoenberger, John Long, John Bauer, Kevin Clinton, Harvey Egan, Michael O’Connell, Jerry Vandrovec, Michael Arms, Michael Erlander, Dennis Dempsey, Paul Moudry, Gregory Welch, John Malone, Richard Rice, John Brandes, Thomas Kommers, Joseph Whalen, Patrick Griffin, Kenneth Pierre, Timothy Morin, Michael Tegeder, Fred Maples, Charles Burns, Michael Monogue, William Murtaugh, John Parkos, Stephen O’Gara, Gregory Esty, Stephen LaCanne, Matthew Linn, Gregory Skrypek, Paul Feela, Cletus Wessels, Richard Banker, David Smith, Eugene Abbott, John Siebenaler, Richard Mahoney, Steven Henrich, Phil Dreckman, Dale Korogi, B. J. McMullen, Harry Walsh, Lawrence R. Johnson, Jose M. Santiago, James Zappa Jr., Thomas Rayar, Tom Poulsen, William Martin, William Stolzman, Clement Zweber, Ronald J. Bowers, Tom Walker, James D. Gorman, John Raymond Lau, Robert Sipe, Robert Monaghan, Joseph Gillespie, James Radde, John Clay, Douglas Dandurand, Eugene Michel, Jerome Hackenmueller, Stephen Bonian, Lawrence Hubbard, Richard Wirth, James Habiger, Fredrick Mertz, Jerome Boxleitner, John Fizpatrick, Robert Hart, Kenneth LaVan, Stanley Maslowski, Martin Beckman, Robert Nygaard, Ambrose Mahon, H. Hansen, S. McMichael, D. Schwinghammer, John Forliti, Robert Valit, Dennis Thompson, James Smith, Leo Tibesar, Thomas Brioschi, David McCauley, George Kallumkalkudy.




Yes, your "Fr. James Notebaart - liturgical designer" signed this letter.


27 posted on 05/31/2006 8:01:27 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: Nihil Obstat

Another example of what is happening there!


28 posted on 05/31/2006 8:05:10 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Bishop Flynn has to go. Fr. Altier would make a great replacement.


29 posted on 05/31/2006 8:21:03 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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To: Rodney King

Because he does NOT"run" the Church. So long as Flynn remains in authority, the pope will not intervene. WHY Rome does not remove him probably has to do with the support that Flynn enjoys in the American Church.


30 posted on 05/31/2006 8:23:21 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Nihil Obstat

That solution would, indeed, be ironic!


31 posted on 05/31/2006 8:24:43 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
OK, so the Archbishop has a few loose cannons in his diocese but he sure straightened out that Fr. Altier, didn't he?

Let nobody say that Archbishop Flynn tolerates dissent and runs a loose ship. Altier never knew what hit him. The good Catholics of Minnesota can sleep easier knowing Flynn got that troublemaker out of their midst.

32 posted on 05/31/2006 8:36:06 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: NYer

If people like this kind of art, I have no problem.

But if people want to pretend that such art makes one ponder one's own relationship with the Holy Trinity and their own eternal destiny - such as the "liturgical designer" priest listed in the caption does - then I say, (in the words of Ray Romano's dad Frank) "Cut the crap."


33 posted on 05/31/2006 10:39:29 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Salvation

Didn't Jesus say something about those who are "neither hot nor cold"? Bleah!


34 posted on 06/01/2006 4:35:16 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Nihil Obstat
After visiting St. Joan's website you don't know whether to laugh or cry.

How about nauseated?

35 posted on 06/01/2006 4:36:32 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: NYer
Design team

Design Vandalism team

"The Tree of Life" is nothing a well placed hand grenade couldn't cure.

36 posted on 06/01/2006 4:40:14 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: NYer

GAG! That is some kind of hideous U-G-L-Y! My old cat had better looking scratching posts!


37 posted on 06/01/2006 6:38:23 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mexico: America's Palestine)
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To: Nihil Obstat; Salvation; Caleb1411
Bishop Flynn has got to go and that parish is reason enough. After visiting St. Joan's website you don't know whether to laugh or cry.
http://stjoan.com/
Poor St. Joan of Arc... her good name being sullied again.

And predictably, the MSM lionizes every "progressive" Catholic who courts (or, in Egan's case, did court) the praise of the world more than the praise of God:

Sure, for decades, the Rev. Harvey Egan was the conscience of Minnesota. . . .

38 posted on 06/01/2006 6:52:29 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Salvation

It's no wonder people went so nuts over Kessler. The heretics.


39 posted on 06/01/2006 7:37:44 AM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: NYer

This reminds of that church in Belgium that turns into a mosque when muslims need it.


40 posted on 06/01/2006 8:38:46 AM PDT by JZelle
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