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To: RKBA Democrat

Full Protration??? Where in a Roman Catholic Church does that happen?? None that I have ever seen. Ridiculous.


28 posted on 05/28/2006 7:07:57 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
"Full Protration??? Where in a Roman Catholic Church does that happen?? None that I have ever seen. Ridiculous."

You missed the part where he said EASTERN rite Catholics, and "Penetential services during Holy Week," I guess. Here's the full quote:

"Uhhhh. While we're getting excited about kneeling in the western church, what about the eastern Catholic churches where kneeling generally isn't the tradition? (Except during certain penitential periods like the Great Fast). I prefer bowing. And kneeling without the full prostrations just loses some of it's reverence in my view.

Nothing in this paragraph refers to Roman Catholic worship. Roman Catholic (Latin rite) and Eastern-rite Catholics have different ways of worship, although all are united under the Holy Father.

50 posted on 05/28/2006 9:39:29 AM PDT by redhead (The REAL redhead -- not the lefty imitation.)
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To: Suzy Quzy; RKBA Democrat; B Knotts
Full Prostration??? Where in a Roman Catholic Church does that happen?? None that I have ever seen.

If by prostration, it is meant bowing down to the ground as the Eastern Orthodox do, then it is practiced in some Catholic churches.

I have seen sisters in religious orders do so in French churches - Carmelites ... and some other order. They are praying kneeling on the floor (with no pews) and then they bend forward and press their forehead to the ground.

They might have picked this up from spirituality exchanges with Orthodox teachers. This form of praying is quite ancient, but is now mainly associated with Muslims. However, it would have been practiced in many churches at one time.

It has the advantage, for people like me, that it brings the blood back to your head. It is a prayer gesture which seems to make one concentrate. I get quite faint and sick if I stand motionless or kneel up on my knees for any long length of time. My circulation gives up.

78 posted on 05/28/2006 7:08:34 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Suzy Quzy

"Full Protration??? Where in a Roman Catholic Church does that happen?? None that I have ever seen. Ridiculous."

Not western or "Roman" Catholic, but eastern Catholic. The eastern Catholic liturgical traditions are very different. Kneeling is not the norm except during penitential times such as the Great Fast (Lent). And yes, full prostrations are part of the eastern tradition.

As for that being "ridiculous," let's just say that there are some very interesting liturgical practices coming out of the western church these days. I try to refrain from commenting on what I think about those practices, as it would tend to be inflammatory. Might I suggest extending the same courtesy when commenting on the liturgical traditions of the eastern churches?


127 posted on 05/31/2006 4:57:35 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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