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Bible supports homosexual partnerships, says bishop
Telegraph ^ | May 28, 2006 | Jonathan Wynne-Jones

Posted on 05/27/2006 9:45:47 PM PDT by fgoodwin

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To: fgoodwin
One of the country's most senior bishops has reignited the Church of England row over homosexuality by claiming that same-sex partnerships are supported by the Bible.

What an idiot!!! The Bible CLEARLY states that homosexuality is a SIN. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah over homosexuality. He will NOT change, and those who continue to live in their sin, will be judged by Him, according to their evil deeds!!

21 posted on 05/29/2006 1:27:12 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (CONGRESS, YOU BUILD THE FENCE NOW, OR WE*LL VOTE FOR LAWMAKERS WHO WILL!)
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To: kittycatonline.com

actually... I did read the bible; several times (I found the old testament to be a whole lot more interesting, but kinda contradictory with the new testament)

I'd suggest that you read the Koran, Tamud, Zohar, Mahabharata and finally some Anthony LaVey. To gain some perspective :)

I have thought about religions a lot and I will continue to do so; but not during the exams ^_^


22 posted on 05/29/2006 1:32:23 PM PDT by Aker
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To: Aker
'd suggest that you read the Koran, Tamud, Zohar, Mahabharata and finally some Anthony LaVey. To gain some perspective :)

Can't say I've read through those, but I have read through the Bible, and for that contrast, I've also read Nietzsche, Sarte, and Kierkegaard; so I've got that anti-Christian perspective to draw from. Perhaps a bit heavy on the existentialist side, but you get the idea. Yeah, I've read 'em.

Glad you could take time out to freep, here is a bit more to consider: Let's presume you've read through a variety of differing belief texts. Now you can choose to eiter: believe one of them; believe some of them; believe all of them; or, believe none of them. The choice is yours, and so is the responsibility for the outcome!

23 posted on 05/29/2006 2:14:44 PM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: kittycatonline.com

Friedrich and Søren attack the institution, not the religion itself... not all that familiar with Sartre though.

The religion that I feel most connected to would most likely be the Old Religon - Wicca (Eclectic)... probably the friendliest religion ever (and if christianity ever finds its true path it'll resemble wicca). The Wiccan rede: "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will"

In case if you're interested: http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_faq.htm (there's also a small part where Wicca and Christianity relationship is explained)


24 posted on 05/29/2006 2:50:06 PM PDT by Aker
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25 posted on 05/29/2006 6:19:21 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: Aker
Of all the religions to pick . . .

"Wicca" was invented in the 1920s by a homely guy named Gardner so he could meet chicks.

. . . not a really sound basis for a belief system, IMHO.

26 posted on 05/29/2006 6:29:37 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: fgoodwin

INTREP - chapter and verse, please


28 posted on 05/29/2006 8:57:02 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: AnAmericanMother

You really could learn more about it :)
Technically its beliefs are older than Christianity, only put into new perspective.
Just like Christianity came into existance with Jesus + apostoles revising Judaism (and yes, I know there's plenty of room for discussion there).


30 posted on 05/30/2006 12:46:11 AM PDT by Aker
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Hmmmm...a homosexual advocacy Wiccan from Slovenia. Why am I suspicious that you're actually a grad student in San Francisco?


31 posted on 05/30/2006 1:01:11 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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Lol :)
Actually... a student of sociology - 4th year = 8th semester 5 exams + diploma till I finish (analisys & theory) on FDV (Fakulteta za Družbene vede in Ljubljana - Faculty of Social Sciences in Ljubljana).

Homosexual advocate; not really, I don't advocate any special kind of rights, but I have a dislike for persecution on the grounds of religion.

As for Wiccan; it's the religion that I feel closest to, doesn't mean that I have to follow the faith.

To the point of Slovenia, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else :) this is literally heaven on earth.


32 posted on 05/30/2006 3:42:39 AM PDT by Aker
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To: Aker
Thanks, I have probably studied it more than you have (a friend of thirty years' standing is a Third Degree and I've met and spoken with a good number of leaders of COG.)

While Wicca claims an ancient origin, it contains nothing that was not easily available to Gardner from the writings of others. It's about as authentic as Cecil Sharp's Morris Dancers -- that is to say it is a mostly speculative re-creation of something that cannot be documented. (Actually there was far more contemporaneous documentation for Sharp's work than anything Gardner or Crowley or their ilk came up with.)

It's a free country, and folks can believe what ever they want to. But don't kid yourself about Wicca's supposed ancient origins.

33 posted on 05/30/2006 7:09:49 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thank you for the lesson :) (no sarcasm meant).
Recreation of something can never be complete, but it is the gist of the matter that is important.

The truly wise make little of their own wisdom for the more they know, the more they realize how little they know. <---this one is from Tao :D


34 posted on 05/30/2006 7:15:51 AM PDT by Aker
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"Old Religion"???? I got yer "Old Religion" right here:

"ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

BWAHAHAHAhahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

35 posted on 05/30/2006 8:21:16 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: kittycatonline.com

Go to Leviticus - the ancient Jews assigned the death penalty for homosexuality and beastiality.


36 posted on 05/30/2006 8:23:43 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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And for other things :P

A. Sins against life.
1. Murder.
2. Offering human sacrifice.
B. Sexual sins.
1. Adultery.
2. Incest.
3. Bestiality.
4. Sodomy (homosexual behavior).
5. Rape.
6. Fornication.
7. Unchastity
C. Spiritual sins.
1. Witchcraft.
2. Idolatry.
3. Blasphemy.
4. Desecration of the Sabbath.
5. Promoting false doctrines or false prophecy.

D. Sins against society.
1. Perjury.
2. Theft.
3. Kidnapping.
4. Contempt of court.
5. Treason.
6. Sedition.
E. Sins against one's parents.
1. Cursing a parent.
2. Physically abusing one's parent.
3. Disobeying parents.

Then you have other random commands which also require death penalty if broken... wearing mixed fiber clothes, eating shellfish,.....

So who do we burne/stone/hang/behead/crucify/stab first?

look at ----> http://dianedew.com/dthpnlty.htm for references


37 posted on 05/30/2006 1:16:05 PM PDT by Aker
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To: ArrogantBustard

"ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
"In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming"

Howard Phillips Lovecraft

If you post things which seem to make no sense... try to put it into a context.
BTW nice picture of Cthulu ;D


38 posted on 05/30/2006 1:20:11 PM PDT by Aker
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To: Aker

The post to which I replied is the context.


39 posted on 05/30/2006 1:25:57 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Gardner - Book of Shadows -> Wicca
Lovecraft - The Call of Cthulhu / Necromicron -> not Wicca


40 posted on 05/30/2006 1:32:03 PM PDT by Aker
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