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Same-sex ceasefire ends for Anglican Church
VirtueOnline-News ^ | 5/20/2006 | Jennifer Green

Posted on 05/21/2006 5:56:57 PM PDT by sionnsar

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1 posted on 05/21/2006 5:56:59 PM PDT by sionnsar
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The answer is really simple: gays called to serve God should start actually examine scripture, repent, and abstain. This is no different from heterosexuals who engage in premarital or extra-marital intercourse. Sin is sin.

People choose to sin. People may not choose to be gay (just as many of us did not "choose" to be heterosexual), but we most certainly do choose to act. Being gay is not a sin; engaging in homosexual acts is. God forgives sinners (all of us are), HE DOES NOT ask us to "celebrate" sin and be happy for sinners while they are committing their sin.

If this woman was actually called by God, she's selective in her hearing. And if she's not comfortable with scripture, she should start her own church, instead (although she'll need lots of prayers!!!).

I never understood this.

2 posted on 05/21/2006 6:35:20 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Proud Retrosexual Wife of 12 Years)
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3 posted on 05/21/2006 7:14:02 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: sionnsar

"two women" "ordained" that's where the problem began.


4 posted on 05/21/2006 7:29:22 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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Well, the problem really began long before that -- but it's all a difference in where you set the threshold.


5 posted on 05/21/2006 7:35:00 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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I was going to read it before pinging you, and then it got very long. So I never did get to the main point!


6 posted on 05/21/2006 7:48:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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I have NO sympathy for this woman. She KNEW that Scripture condemns her lifestyle. Practicing homosexuality is anathema to Christians and she knew that too.
She talked herself, via moral relativity, into thinking that being married to another woman was acceptable and right in the eyes of her Anglican Church.

Someone who can LIE to herself so well is either sick, evil or stupid. I do doubt that she is stupid....after all, a YALE graduate. Mymymy, that leaves only two other alternatives.

How CAN such smart, educated people talk themselves into such evil or sickness?

7 posted on 05/21/2006 8:39:55 PM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: TheWriterTX
The answer is really simple: gays called to serve God should start actually examine scripture, repent, and abstain. This is no different from heterosexuals who engage in premarital or extra-marital intercourse. Sin is sin.
People choose to sin. People may not choose to be gay (just as many of us did not "choose" to be heterosexual), but we most certainly do choose to act. Being gay is not a sin; engaging in homosexual acts is. God forgives sinners (all of us are), HE DOES NOT ask us to "celebrate" sin and be happy for sinners while they are committing their sin.
If this woman was actually called by God, she's selective in her hearing. And if she's not comfortable with scripture, she should start her own church, instead (although she'll need lots of prayers!!!).
I never understood this.

I NEVER did either.
As I wrote above, she is either evil or sick.

8 posted on 05/21/2006 8:42:30 PM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: sionnsar

A bishop can place people such as this in parishes till kingdom come, and the press can also write these poor-little-me pieces till they run out of ink, but they cannot force sincere Christians - and particularly people who willingly pay up on a generous pledge every week - to continue membership in these parishes where they will be forced to sit and listen to this heretical, gnostic, Da Vinci Code type of Gospel week in and week out. That is what the administrators and the social-tinkerers do not seem to understand.


9 posted on 05/21/2006 8:51:59 PM PDT by Cookie123
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...glowing recommendations from the U.S. Episcopal Church

These days, that may or may not be such a good thing...
10 posted on 05/21/2006 9:01:03 PM PDT by VOA
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<< I never understood this. >>

If evil is but the absence of Truth all that is required of us is that we recognize evil, not that we understand it.

The suggestion is offered elsewhere in this thread that the subject of the piece is "either evil or sick."

She is of couse, both sick and evil.

The evil includes that the truth about her and about the mental illness of every other "homosexual" has been called a lie. And that from that false premise descends the compounding insanity that every "homosexual's" every insane lie is called "truth" and his every perverted and degenerate and abnormal and sad action and activity is called "normal."

And even, God forbid, "gay."


11 posted on 05/21/2006 9:34:23 PM PDT by Brian Allen (All that is required to ensure the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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I see it as perverted individuals putting their own selfish wishes before the whole Church. They try to change the Church for their personal agenda, and when the Church kicks back they claim it's unjust.

When you join a club, you accept the rules. If you don't like the rules, then join a different club.


12 posted on 05/22/2006 2:29:09 AM PDT by mikeyc
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"How CAN such smart, educated people talk themselves into such evil or sickness?"

Pride, the oldest sins of all.


13 posted on 05/22/2006 3:06:29 AM PDT by kalee (Send your senator the dictionary definition of "amnesty")
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Correction to last post
sins should have said sin
Sorry.


14 posted on 05/22/2006 3:07:35 AM PDT by kalee (Send your senator the dictionary definition of "amnesty")
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When schism comes, and the churches in Canada and the US are booted out of the Anglican Communion, they can then join together, and rename themselves...Episcopal Church and Anglican Church of Canada..ECACA...sounds apt, doesn't it..?


15 posted on 05/22/2006 5:37:41 AM PDT by ken5050 (GWB, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, freed hundreds of millions.# of Nobel PeacePrizes: ZERO)
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To: kalee
Pride, the oldest sins of all.

One of the seven deadly sins, as I remember.

16 posted on 05/22/2006 7:07:41 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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When schism comes, and the churches in Canada and the US are booted out of the Anglican Communion, they can then join together, and rename themselves...Episcopal Church and Anglican Church of Canada..ECACA...sounds apt, doesn't it..?

Yes, it does.

They can join the gay parades around the world, with an ECACA entry of homosexual priests marching embracing their same-sex partners, with children probably. "All it takes is l-o-v-e" and "legalize love" banners can top their march, hand in hand, with a cross and Anglican banner, of course.

They could march right behind the traditional parade starters here in San Francisco: 1. dykes on bikes (motorcyles) and 2. fags on nags (bare buttock men, with chaps and boots, that is ALL). That disgusting, vile parade is coming up next month.

The homosexual voice in America downplays the re-showing of the parade in sound bites because the "voice" desperately tries to "normalize" their abyssmally abnormal lifestyle....which is REAL hard to do with images of "dykes on bikes" and "fags on nags." Harhar. When they first held the parade, YEARS AGO, they were DESPERATE for air time, until they realized how that air time was used against them.

There once was a group of obese lesbians who marched en masse and I do mean en masse in the parade. I called them the Liavathonn Lesbians. They were all 400-pounders. Homo-blubbos on the march. They only did it one year. I think they lacked the stamina to be on their feet, without food for that long.

I know I'm imagining a horrible scenario. You'd think they would have too much dignity for such a disgusting display, but I don't put it past them. Their homosexuality seems FAR MORE important to them than their calling. Otherwise, we wouldn't even know about their homosexuality because they would be CHASTE, UNMARRIED and faithful to the teachings of Jesus.

Here in the San Francisco bay area there's a sick, vile, hell-bound group called the "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence"....but you don't want to get me started.....

17 posted on 05/22/2006 7:21:28 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: sionnsar

These women were/are insurgents.


18 posted on 05/22/2006 9:02:20 AM PDT by polymuser
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To: TheWriterTX
The answer is really simple: gays called to serve God should start actually examine scripture, repent, and abstain. This is no different from heterosexuals who engage in premarital or extra-marital intercourse. Sin is sin. People choose to sin. People may not choose to be gay (just as many of us did not "choose" to be heterosexual), but we most certainly do choose to act. Being gay is not a sin; engaging in homosexual acts is. God forgives sinners (all of us are), HE DOES NOT ask us to "celebrate" sin and be happy for sinners while they are committing their sin.
If this woman was actually called by God, she's selective in her hearing. And if she's not comfortable with scripture, she should start her own church, instead (although she'll need lots of prayers!!!). I never understood this.

My sentiments exactly...I could not have stated it better!

19 posted on 05/22/2006 12:25:48 PM PDT by meandog (If I were to draw the odious Islamic prophet Muhammad, he would have horns, a tail, and a ptichfork!)
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To: sionnsar
Had she been dishonest about her sexuality, and lived with Ms. Haussman without benefit of a legal marriage, everything might have been fine.

More evidence of how Satan softens up the world for attack, by confusing the minds of men.

20 posted on 05/23/2006 11:09:39 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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