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From Operation Rescue to Operation Convert [Randall Terry now Catholic]
National Catholic registar ^ | 5/17/06 | TIM DRAKE

Posted on 05/17/2006 9:08:53 PM PDT by Full Court

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To: Salvation
you're just trying to provoke an argiement -- bait, etc.

Save it for some other sucker, I ain't interested.

61 posted on 05/18/2006 10:13:58 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Sir_Ed
Why would they be less able to do this when they are in the glorious presence of Almighty God?

Why would you need them to?

The Holy Word of God only lists Jesus Christ as an intercessor between man and God.

62 posted on 05/18/2006 10:15:44 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: Full Court

"Left his wife for another woman, both daughters pregnant out of wedlock, (one is now a Muslim,) one son is a homosexual."


Know Jesus Christ personally. When asked if he was one of Jesus' disciples, he denied Jesus three times in a matter of hours. Actually hid during the days after Jesus died.



Also, Actually knew Jesus and lived side by side with him and other followers. Demanded to see the risen Christ and put his fingers into Christ's wounds before he would accept the Resurrection



Actually led persecutions of Christians and did so well at it that he lived a nice life as an important army officer.



Was such an incorrigible criminal that he was condemned to death the same day as Jesus.



I could go on but I think you get my point.


63 posted on 05/18/2006 10:17:56 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer: Fighting to save America from Hillary Clinton..)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

My hero.

"Oh Lord, open the King of England's eyes!"

64 posted on 05/18/2006 10:21:21 AM PDT by Full Court (Jesus saves)
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To: Full Court

Some things just never change.


65 posted on 05/18/2006 10:31:33 AM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Full Court

I think Luther realized that no oath nor action on our parts can save us. While Baptism is not a salvation issue among Protestants, it certainly is for Catholics who must be baptized into the Holy Roman Catholic Church in order to be saved.

All men are told to obey God. Some do; some don't. We're told to repent, believe, be baptized, perform good works, love God...all of which is the Holy Spirit working within us.

And just like the "wind and the sea obey Him" because they are compelled and have no choice, all those whom God ordains to save will obey, repent, be baptized, perform good works and love God.

Salvation is of the Lord. Christ will lose none of His sheep whom God has given Him to lead home. Christianity is a specific, particular faith. God breathed your name among His flock from before the foundation of the world.

Baptism confirms that fact.


66 posted on 05/18/2006 10:33:14 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; Full Court; Gamecock; HarleyD; AlbionGirl; fortheDeclaration
"They told me that the farther you go in Reformation theology, the more you end up in Catholicism and liturgy."

They told him that? Were they church recruiters, behind on quota, needing more converts??? I guess they conveniently forgot to tell him about the Council of Trent's Sixth Session....

CANON V.-If any one saith, that, since Adam's sin, the free will of man is lost and extinguished; or, that it is a thing with only a name, yea a name without a reality, a figment, in fine, introduced into the Church by Satan; let him be anathema.

CANON IX.-If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.

CANON XI.-If any one saith, that men are justified, either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ, or by the sole remission of sins, to the exclusion of the grace and the charity which is poured forth in their hearts by the Holy Ghost, and is inherent in them; or even that the grace, whereby we are justified, is only the favour of God; let him be anathema.

CANON XV.-If any one saith, that a man, who is born again and justified, is bound of faith to believe that he is assuredly in the number of the predestinate; let him be anathema.

CANON XXIV.-If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.

CANON XXX.-If any one saith, that, after the grace of Justification has been received, to every penitent sinner the guilt is remitted, and the debt of eternal punishment is blotted out in such wise, that there remains not any debt of temporal punishment to be discharged either in this world, or in the next in Purgatory, before the entrance to the kingdom of heaven can be opened (to him); let him be anathema.


67 posted on 05/18/2006 10:38:48 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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To: Salvation

"I certainly hope you are not 'Catholic bashing' with that statement."

I think if you look at my posts debating with Roman Catholics on this forum you will see although I disagree with some of the postions I do not insult, disparage or "bash".


68 posted on 05/18/2006 10:40:15 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Salvation
Wow,Don't have time to read article but will catch it later.I met Randy a few times.
69 posted on 05/18/2006 10:42:14 AM PDT by fatima (Kathy in Alaska is the best.)
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To: linda_22003
Alright, anybody else think after reading that NY Times article that Randall Terry became a Catholic so he could smoke his cigar and drink his beer in public?

Which reminds me - thank God I'm Catholic!

70 posted on 05/18/2006 10:47:13 AM PDT by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: Full Court

Guess I'm just lucky I don't know as much about Randall Terry's spiritual credits as some others on this thread.
I do know that there were two criminals on Golgotha with Jesus and at least half of them went to Heaven anyway.


71 posted on 05/18/2006 10:48:41 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Full Court
And the Vatican will approve his annulment because he is a high profile convert.

If the Vatican approves the annulment, it will be FOR CAUSE. It doesn't matter who is he or how many people know him.

Your posts make it seem that you always want to believe the worst of the Church, no matter how much evidence may be presented to the contrary.

72 posted on 05/18/2006 10:49:57 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Full Court; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; AlbionGirl; fortheDeclaration
"They told me that the farther you go in Reformation theology, the more you end up in Catholicism and liturgy."

"ROTFL!"

This is serious stuff and you are laughing at it instead of plugging up the hole in the Reformation theology where all the converts are leaking out.

Here is some patching material specially anointed by Benny Hinn for just the occasion. Just put it on the crack in the theology where they are leaking out. You can thank me later.


73 posted on 05/18/2006 10:59:53 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Full Court; P-Marlowe; BibChr

I'm glad for his pro-life stand.

I'm disappointed that an "evangelical" can overlook the obvious biblical absence of the theology known as the immaculate conception and it's kissing cousin, the assumption.

He certainly wasn't a biblical evangelical.


74 posted on 05/18/2006 11:15:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
While Baptism is not a salvation issue among Protestants ...

Best not tell that to the Church of Christ folks.

75 posted on 05/18/2006 11:28:23 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Full Court
The Protestant, pro-life corrupter of so many Christians has himself been spiritually corrupted through and through because he has loved the unborn more than Christ.

Bizarre. Sick. Cloud-cuckoo sick.

"Whatsoever you do to the least of these, that you do unto me ..." -- Matthew 25

76 posted on 05/18/2006 11:31:20 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Full Court
Why would you need them to?

Why did Paul ask his readers to pray for him?

77 posted on 05/18/2006 11:32:26 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And Willilam Tyndale, who was burned at the stake for translating the Bible into English against the dictate of the Romanists

Tyndale was executed in Belgium on a charge of heresy, not for translating the Bible into English, which wouldn't have been very interesting to the Belgians anyway.

The "King of England" whose eyes he prayed to be opened had already broken with Rome by then, and was busily executing faithful Catholics.

78 posted on 05/18/2006 11:40:35 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: xzins
Apostasy is always tragic.

What Is Biblical Christianity?

79 posted on 05/18/2006 11:51:29 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Sir_Ed

"First of all, he believes that forgiveness ONLY comes through a Priest and communion...that if a man sins, and prays for forgivenss, and truly repents, that if he dies before he can see a Priest and confess and ask for forgiveness, then he will go to hell and burn in eternal damnation-I don't see that an anywhere in the Bible. "

This is not true. People can "believe" many different things and still not get it right when it comes to actually understanding what the Church actually teaches.


80 posted on 05/18/2006 11:54:42 AM PDT by Scotswife
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