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To: tenn2005
1. The puctuation that I was referring to is the punctuation adopted by all of the translators of the mainstream translations of the Bible. I know that there is no punctuation in the Greek.

As I said, punctuation is non-inspired. Some translators render punctuation differently than others. The "Message Bible" is about as "mainstream" as you can get if you're judging by numbers of copies sold. It renders the passage:

Mar 16:9 [After rising from the dead, Jesus appeared early on Sunday morning to Mary Magdalene, whom he had delivered from seven demons.

2. This is a deliberate misquote of the KJV. You have added a comma after the word "early" which does not exist in the KJV. Check your spelling also. Lets at least be honest for the sake of others on this forum.

This is an accurate quote of the King James 1611 Version. Not the King James Authorized Version, which was published in 1769. Nor the Revised version, which was published much later.

(KJV-1611) Now when Iesus was risen early, the first day of the weeke, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seuen deuils.

I added nothing.

4. Mary Magdalene saw Him very early at the tomb just after his resurrection. (John 20:11-14)

It depends on how you define "just after". According to John, she came to the tomb while it was still dark and the tomb was empty, the stone was rolled back (John 20:1) The book of Matthew verifies that this was what we would call Saturday night (Matthew 28:1).

She then ran back to Peter and John and told them that he had already risen.(John 20:2) How long did it take her to get back to John and Peter, to find them, and to convince them?

John and Peter then went back to the tomb (John 20:3-8). How long did that take?

John and Peter spent a certain amount of time there. How long? Then they left. John 20:10

Mary stayed there at the tomb. (John 20:11). How long did she stay there at the tomb before the angel appeared? After all these events, after an unspecified amount of time, she then saw Jesus and mistook him for the gardner. We KNOW this happened early on what we would call Sunday morning because of Mark 16:9. We know that she did not see him until Sunday morning because John continues:

Joh 20:18 Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.
Joh 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

The "same day at evening", the same day when Mary had seen Jesus, Sunday night, the disciples were hiding out.

He was resurrected just before sundown on what we call Saturday night. Mary first saw him on what we call Sunday morning.

5. Jesus tomb was in Jerusalem, not Galilee.

Yes, I realize that. I did misspeak about where he appeared to Mary and I thank you for pointing it out. He appeared to the disciples in Galillee later on, as promised. He appeared to Mary Sunday morning.

215 posted on 05/07/2006 7:19:33 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
It depends on how you define "just after". According to John, she came to the tomb while it was still dark and the tomb was empty, the stone was rolled back (John 20:1) The book of Matthew verifies that this was what we would call Saturday night (Matthew 28:1).

If it was dark the sun had sat on the seventh day of the week. Therefore it was on the first day of the week per Luke 24:1, not the seventh day that Mary returned to the tomb, having visited there late on the Sabbath per Matt 28:1. Mary and the other two women found the tomb empty early, just before daybreak, on the first day of the week while it was yet dark. The Jewish day begins before it is dark. The first part of the Jewish day is known as "twilight".

He was resurrected just before sundown on what we call Saturday night. Mary first saw him on what we call Sunday morning.

As the Sabbath ended Mary visited the tomb along with Mary, the mother of James. That would have been at dusk. At the Early morning visit Salome joined them. There were two separate visits to the tomb. One by two women late on the sabbath (Matt 28:1)and the other by three women early on the morning of the first day of the week (Mark 16:1-2,Luke 24:1). It was at the second visit that the tomb was found empty, not the first.

223 posted on 05/07/2006 10:17:20 AM PDT by tenn2005 (Birth is merely an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: DouglasKC
This is an accurate quote of the King James 1611 Version. Not the King James Authorized Version, which was published in 1769. Nor the Revised version, which was published much later.

(KJV-1611) Now when Iesus was risen early, the first day of the weeke, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seuen deuils.

Here is Mark 16:9 from the original 1611 KJV and a link where you can check it out. You have changed the punctuation by adding a comma as I said before.

9: Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Original 1611 KJV

231 posted on 05/07/2006 7:29:23 PM PDT by tenn2005 (Birth is merely an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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