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Typical moron journalism.
Thousands of minor copying errors do exist, which we would expect with people manually copying the text over many years. No doctrine comes into question because the agreement is about 99% and the copying errors are easily spotted.
The tradition of copying the Old Testament in Hebrew includes counting every letter to make sure it is letter perfect.
The Bible is the most precise ancient book with the earliest manuscripts of all.
Tektonics.org - For the clueless.
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Look's to me like another non-believer telling the faithfull what the bible really says. Like she knows the mind of the Lord.
a huge lot more bible texts survived from ancient days than say, the plays of Sophlocles or Euripides or most of the other ancient texts, but we hold the Bible up to outrageously high scholastic standards, higher than any other major ancient text.
And there is a lot less variation in texts than people feel. None of them are key salvation truths.
If you don't understand making standardized texts, then why they do this might bother you. There are some philosophies involving this that lead to the texts. One decides to use the oldest manuscripts available, thinking that these are closer to the original - might be, but they might have survived because someone tucked them into storage cause they didn't think they were as reliable.
One approach uses the majority readings, on the concept that this is what the church deemed to be the most realiable. There is a growing movement towards this approach.
I'm not sure what philosophy Erasmus used when he put together the Textus receptus, but he didn't have the oldest manuscripts around (as they hadn't had come out of storage yet), and some books he didn't have many texts to compare with.
Nonetheless, as God says, his Word does not go out from him in vain, and you can most certainly come to the truth of Jesus being the messiah and Lord using any of them.
And the variants still aren't that many compared to the text as a whole.
Just a typical anti-Christ piece. Take away the sacredness of the text, take awake the sacredness of the Lord, freedom to be as decadent as you want - without that little voice of your prayerful mother or grandmother haunting you in the back of your head.
This explains WJC carrying one, and "ministering" to Monica.
From what I've learned on Free Republic, if it was there in 1616 then that is all that matters.
Ho-hum. Really boring stuff, these error-prone journalists write.
Can we not find thousands, of errors--made up or inadvertent--in our very our contemporary journalism regarding the drinking and sins of, say, Teddy Kennedy? And yet, there are a few truthful and reliable reports?
Then the media gobbles up the erroneous reports and perpetuates them because they fit their template of what truth is? And then the really bad stories pop into the tabloid press?
Well, in the past, the truthful and reliable reports were the books of the Old and New Testament. The tabloid journals were the gnostic gospels and writings. The Weekly World News of all of that was the Gospel of Judas et al.
Ho-hum. Really boring stuff these error-prone journalists write.
Orange County Community Tech NC ping!! Wonder why those fine folks in Chapel Hill never spend this much time helping us 'understand' the Koran...
read later bump
Sad.
Why do you think God sent Moroni?
This is all part of the determined revival of the Gnostic heresy, represented by The Da Vinci Code, The Gospel of Judas, etc. And the above quote fits in exactly with the central heresy that marks the movement as evil, pure and simple.
"Christ left the Earth, His followeres were debating what His life and death really meant..."
Not "life, death and resurrection." They deny that happened because they insist He was not divine, merely a "good man" or a "rabbi." This is also a central tenet of Islam. Jesus is not God, is not His Son and forget about that whole Holy Spirit nonsense.
These works exist not to bring salvation or enlightment but to try and steal salvation and deny enlightenment by obscuring the truth with lies. As ever, their goal is unreachable, but they can bring pain, dissension, fear and doubt. I wonder who might enjoy inspiring that sort of mission? Certainly not God.
Simon Magus, Marcion, Valentinus, Carpocrates led the Gnostic heresies in scurrying behind the footsteps of the Apostles after the Christian faith began to spread. But Gnosticism predates Christ and goes back easily to the era of Cyrus in Babylon and perhaps beyond. It is most definitely not a monotheistic religion and rejects the God of Abraham and the Prophets virtually in their entirity. And it has continued to survive through the Christian era by hiding as some form of "secret society" avialable only to the "initiates" guarding some great knowledge.
The evil motives and tactics ascribed by Brown to Catholics in The Da Vinci Code are better seen as descriptions of the Gnostic views and practices, yet the Gnostics are the "worthy heros" struggling against their "evil oppressors" throughout history.
The basic threads of Gnosticism are also closely interwoven with Islam and illuminate that cults actions and aims. And again, they share the central and overwhelming insistence that Jesus was not divine. Both Islam and the so called "Christian" Gnostic heresies, particularly those represented in the Da Vinci Code, insist that Christ did not die on the Cross but "tricked" everyone and escaped. The Da Vinci Gnostics add the twist of a royal blood line descended from Jesus. And it is a variation on this theme that the NAZIs embraced in their particular occult system of beliefs.
My big question is "why now?" Why does the Gnostic heresy raise it's ugly head again, just in time for the resurgence of Jihadi militants? Whose interests are served?
"And you will know them by their fruits."
Let me guess......the Professor has now "discovered" he/she is gay, or bi-sexual?
There are over 20,000 manuscripts with our gospels all together. They were also all written within 100 years of Christ. The other gospels, commonly refered to as the Gnostic gospels, were written MUCH later. This guy does not know bibliology or hermenuetics.
Hold your nose before you read this one.
ping of the ping list of which we dare not speaketh, lest we say.....neeet